Mystic Neg Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Not with everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mystic Neg said: Sorry you've lost me SWFC didn't suddenly become a complete clusterfuck in the last 10 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I agree - it should apply both ways So why did you vacate neutral territory in the Pulis sacked thread and position yourself as being against Chansiris handling of the situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, owlinexile said: SWFC didn't suddenly become a complete clusterfuck in the last 10 weeks. I think there's been a misunderstanding. I am well aware of that, I've been concerned for the best part of my life as a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Did he mention when our season ticket holders would be receiving their refunds? Money to burn he keeps telling us but EFL won't let him spend it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said: So why did you vacate neutral territory in the Pulis sacked thread and position yourself as being against Chansiris handling of the situation? Will you be giving a similar grilling to Willow Owl? 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: Did he mention when our season ticket holders would be receiving their refunds? Money to burn he keeps telling us but EFL won't let him spend it. 2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Will you be giving a similar grilling to Willow Owl? Maybe, if I can still walk straight after this basin of gin I’m about to consume. Anyway, good discussion chaps, helped pass an otherwise boring tier 4 day. Have a good one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Don't blame DC for saying the things about Pulis, we need to hear both sides. I thought it was odd that Reach never celebrated his goal. Pulis was quick to blame the players, Pulis knew that these players had to see him through until other players could be brought in so you would think that destroying their confidence would be thing last thing to do. The players seemed far happier the other night with Thompson in charge. His tactics of using 1 up front was never going to improve our goal record, DC has always said he want to play attacking football and he didn't do that DC is always going to take the blame if anything goes wrong, we have to think that it is the advisors that make the wrong choices and offer bad advice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Yellowbelly said: Maybe, if I can still walk straight after this basin of gin I’m about to consume. Anyway, good discussion chaps, helped pass an otherwise boring tier 4 day. Have a good one. Sorry did you say Gin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I condem any abuse on social media aimed at a 12 year child. But part of me thinks maybe 12 is too young to be on social media especially when your Dad is in the public eye. That does not excuse the abuse of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Shetland Owl said: Don't blame DC for saying the things about Pulis, we need to hear both sides. I thought it was odd that Reach never celebrated his goal. Pulis was quick to blame the players, Pulis knew that these players had to see him through until other players could be brought in so you would think that destroying their confidence would be thing last thing to do. The players seemed far happier the other night with Thompson in charge. His tactics of using 1 up front was never going to improve our goal record, DC has always said he want to play attacking football and he didn't do that DC is always going to take the blame if anything goes wrong, we have to think that it is the advisors that make the wrong choices and offer bad advice. They do seem to be a rather fragile bunch our players don't they. Not been a happy camp for long before TP arrived. They are DC's advisors remember, they should be being held far more accountable by him if it really is them doing the signing and hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I've no issue with your sycophancy towards anything and everything Chansiri does That's your choice If you think it's supporting the club better than those who don't that's totally fine I do take exception to you applying hypocritical logic to things though That old chestnut, I’ll be an Uberfan soon. After hearing the chairman’s reasoning this morning I am happy with his decision. if Pulis comes out with anything that makes me change my mind then that is my right. Just because I choose to back the chairman doesn’t make me a better fan then anyone else and I have never said this. Yet when someone backs the chairman you try to belittle them or accuse them of sycophancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Willow Owl said: That old chestnut, I’ll be an Uberfan soon. Who’s gonna break it to him? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Who’s gonna break it to him? Grow up, your like a child who’s had his toys taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Willow Owl said: Grow up, your like a child who’s had his toys taken away. Ive never once read a single post from you where you either accepted any failure from the chairman or that wasn’t an attack on Wednesday fans How come? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, Mystic Neg said: It is not that black and white a) Are they Wednesday fans abusing him. b) Why hasn't it been pointed out to the police c) What are we supposed to do about it. d) Are you arguing a case that because a very small minority if idiots have abused Chansiri's son we should simply sweep all his failings under the carpet? Social Media is an awful thing in the wrong hands but we as a collective cannot be persecuted for it. If we are then it means the trolls and the bullies have won. No one on here thinks abusing children on Social Media is fine Here is where we differ I’m afraid. To me it is black and white. Verbally abusing a 12 year old child is ALWAYS wrong. It is NEVER justified. a) under the balance of probability, yes. However, I could care less. Verbally abusing a 12 year old child is wrong. b) whether it has been reported to the police or not is irrelevant. Verbally abusing a 12 year old child is wrong. c) we are supposed to condemn it unreservedly when given the opportunity. d) why are you linking the abuse of a 12 year old child with his fathers failings. Are you suggesting it’s ok to abuse a 12 year old child if his father isn’t good at his job? For the record I do not feel DC is capable of running SWFC but would never use that as an excuse to abuse a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Willow Owl said: That old chestnut, I’ll be an Uberfan soon. After hearing the chairman’s reasoning this morning I am happy with his decision. if Pulis comes out with anything that makes me change my mind then that is my right. Just because I choose to back the chairman doesn’t make me a better fan then anyone else and I have never said this. Yet when someone backs the chairman you try to belittle them or accuse them of sycophancy. Just an observation here but it might make you chuckle. I've been taking on the owner of the greater establishment that is Sheffield Wednesday because I think he is way off the mark. You are taking on the owner of this forum and his comments because you think he is way off the mark. Neither of us will ever have both sides of the story for everything that we are debating, we will only have fragments. That is what a forum is, you can think what you like. Hold on, I'm not sure what we are all arguing about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: Here is where we differ I’m afraid. To me it is black and white. Verbally abusing a 12 year old child is ALWAYS wrong. It is NEVER justified. a) under the balance of probability, yes. However, I could care less. Verbally abusing a 12 year old child is wrong. b) whether it has been reported to the police or not is irrelevant. Verbally abusing a 12 year old child is wrong. c) we are supposed to condemn it unreservedly when given the opportunity. d) why are you linking the abuse of a 12 year old child with his fathers failings. Are you suggesting it’s ok to abuse a 12 year old child if his father isn’t good at his job? For the record I do not feel DC is capable of running SWFC but would never use that as an excuse to abuse a child. Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Mystic Neg said: Just an observation here but it might make you chuckle. I've been taking on the owner of the greater establishment that is Sheffield Wednesday because I think he is way off the mark. You are taking on the owner of this forum and his comments because you think he is way off the mark. Neither of us will ever have both sides of the story for everything that we are debating, we will only have fragments. That is what a forum is, you can think what you like. Hold on, I'm not sure what we are all arguing about. I have zero issues with any of Willow Owls beliefs or his right to express them I just take exception to him coming on here preaching about both sides of the story but then it turns out it only applies if it’s a pro Chansiri stance Thats all Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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