GY-owl.4 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 there is one massive difference between Jos and CC. and its ego. CC believed in HIS brand of how footy should be played, and by and large he stuck to it. when CC was here It depended how the opposites 'set up' on whether we played well or not. its why most of his managerial appointments have been short term, because his ego means he has to stick to his footballing philosophy EVEN WHEN the opposites have figured it out. Jos lack of ego means he wants to play the type of formation that will 'win games' regardless of what the actual formation is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 34 minutes ago, hawksmore said: The fact you’re only capable of taking one sentence and offering such a meek counter shows it’s just a personal issue you have, rather than one substantiated with any sort of tangible evidence. No it doesn't It shows that you provided a huge long list of issues and I chose to select just one of them to show you that your argument is flawed beyond belief The evidence is clear for all to see More evidence is that he's no longer here Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, @owlstalk said: No it doesn't It shows that you provided a huge long list of issues and I chose to select just one of them to show you that your argument is flawed beyond belief No you didn't. Because you can't and never have been. 'a nod' despite what the chairman said at the fans forum, aye nice one, 'beyond belief' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 18/09/2018 at 12:28, S36 OWL said: Been around a bit won't be stopping long. must remember the clothes brush the boots marks of the arse of trousers before interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacock1961 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 21 hours ago, GY-owl.4 said: there is one massive difference between Jos and CC. and its ego. CC believed in HIS brand of how footy should be played, and by and large he stuck to it. when CC was here It depended how the opposites 'set up' on whether we played well or not. its why most of his managerial appointments have been short term, because his ego means he has to stick to his footballing philosophy EVEN WHEN the opposites have figured it out. Jos lack of ego means he wants to play the type of formation that will 'win games' regardless of what the actual formation is. not last night he didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 18/09/2018 at 10:32, StudentOwl said: So instead of taking over a team halfway through the season and leading them to relegation, he wants a whole campaign to achieve the same result? What does he mean he proved what he can do? dreamer and bullshitter. complete w@nker, in love with himself. good entertainment (so long as he's not at your club). if he were chocolate he'd eat himself. salesman of emperor's new clothes. bring on 'the clown'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 21 hours ago, @owlstalk said: No it doesn't It shows that you provided a huge long list of issues and I chose to select just one of them to show you that your argument is flawed beyond belief The evidence is clear for all to see More evidence is that he's no longer here no longer anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, peacock1961 said: not last night he didn't its games like last night that will make Jos change things. something CC would never do, too stubborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Can we please form a Cult of Carlos just to wind people up? His time has come! Please PM for time and place of next cult meeting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wall Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Think I heard someone call him a cult... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacock1961 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, GY-owl.4 said: its games like last night that will make Jos change things. something CC would never do, too stubborn. Sorry but must disagree, last night he picked an attacking team and put joao in midfield, put bannan at left wing back and let reach believe he'd got bergkamp's role. We then think were man city strolling around at the back playing keep ball with dawson. What did he change? naff all, no direction from the sidelines and then takes joao off, when reach/mattias/adthe are having nightmares. Showed absolutely no impetus to change things as you suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny0wl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 18/09/2018 at 10:54, Kagoshimaowl said: I find the Carlis hatred on here weird. We were ONE game away from going up in a season where we played the best football I’ve seen since the mid 90’s and in a season where some pundits predicted us for the drop. Yes, it went south after that but I will never hate him for that season that he gave us. Weird really as Megson is treated like a god in here, yet that was in a lower division and he didn’t get us promoted either. I whole heartedly agree with this, the 1st season was great. Until Wembley, when we simply didn’t show up. It could have been a legacy but for that one day. I like Carlos and he was unlucky in his final season with the injuries, but then we didn’t have the depth and he had a hand in recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It is what it is with Carlos, don’t hold any grudges against him, 1 game away from prem and all that. Looking at his twitter it’s clear he had a genuine affiliation with the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield owl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 18/09/2018 at 10:39, wilfsmith said: Is this the correct place for this thread? This ex-manager doesn't have anything to do with Sheffield Wednesday does he? Some people take a long time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 18/09/2018 at 10:14, @owlstalk said: Says he's back on the market looking for work Loves working in England and says only something unusual will take him away from England Says he's not a rich person but has recently turned down a megabucks offers from Saudi Arabia, China, Russia Says he has projects in his head and wants to show what he can do Says he proved with Swansea what he can do but has unfinished business More like "voices in his head".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, peacock1961 said: Sorry but must disagree, last night he picked an attacking team and put joao in midfield, put bannan at left wing back and let reach believe he'd got bergkamp's role. We then think were man city strolling around at the back playing keep ball with dawson. What did he change? naff all, no direction from the sidelines and then takes joao off, when reach/mattias/adthe are having nightmares. Showed absolutely no impetus to change things as you suggest. ah i think you misunderstood my original post. i wasnt talking about making changes in game, i meant more generally. as in if we are on a bad run of results jos is not scared to change the system we play, like he did last season and already this. unlike CC who in his infinite wisdom, believed HIS way was the only way to play. i thought your first reply to me was odd saying 'he didnt last night did he' i mean, on the back of 4 games unbeaten hes not going to is he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield owl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 19/09/2018 at 16:37, @owlstalk said: I'll take just one sentence from your Carlos loving excuse ridden post This one about Rhodes Carlos said he nodded this deal through recently The issue I have with Carlos fans is not that they've been taken in by a salesman (although that's annoying), it's that they blindly defend Carlos without any use of facts or historical evidence. They just say "yeah you can't blame Carlos for stuff that went wrong under his time here" Carlos may have nodded the deal through but that’s a very simplistic way of looking at it. Why would he turn down the opportunity? The real problem is why was no-one saying if we sign him that’s it, there will be no money for any further signings . You need to acknowledge the problems at our club were (and still are) much deeper than our coach/manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield owl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 19/09/2018 at 07:05, Socialist_Owl said: Jaap Stam got to Wembley. Left Reading a dull shitshow. The footballing world is full of few year flukes. Who cares. He neglected youth development, played his faves to no end, and showed absolutely no tactical nous ever. Those negatives still affect the club, and they far outweigh some fleeting bit of brilliance that was more on the collected players absolutely clicking than some managerial acumen. Always amuses me this sort of comment. Based on a personal dislike of a manager then it’s more the players than the manager when it goes well but suddenly becomes the manager’s fault when the form dips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield owl Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 18/09/2018 at 19:54, emersonthome said: Were the injuries his fault? Did the other stuff actually happen or is this just myth presented as facts? The injuries were going to stop after CC left, or so many thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wakefield owl said: The injuries were going to stop after CC left, or so many thought. You could argue we are still suffering, because of his tenure. One player may never recover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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