Blame for their goals

[HIGHERSTATE]

Im pretty sure some people use owlstalk as some sort of therapy

[GY-owl.4]

1 hour ago, HIGHERSTATE said:

Im pretty sure some people use owlstalk as some sort of therapy

 

Probably all of us!

its just some havent realised yet...

[robswfc]

3 hours ago, torryowl said:

if you look hard enough you can always find someone to blame for just about any goal …...I wouldn't be pinning to much blame on any  individual for the 2 goals yesterday.think it was more collective sloppy defending with a bit of good fortune thrown in for stoke's second . 

 

All three of Reach, Bannan, Pelupessy ball watching and let Ince drift in behind them right in middle of park and pick a pass. 

[DuttyTeabags]

As I said in another thread, against the top sides we will get found out with Pelupessy in the side due to his technical deficiencies in and out of possession.  It's a real shame we can't transplant David Jones brain into Pelupessy body as he is the total opposite, good footballing brain, understanding of positioning when defending but snow as a snail and can be run rings around/ targeted by the oppo.

 

Would love to see Onomah and Hector start at Forest in place of Pessy and Lees just to see what kind of reaction we get - would add some physicality and pace to the side which I think we need esp. away from home.

 

3 points would see us well in the mix...and we have decent recent away record at Forest...

[Flat Owl]

15 hours ago, RUMBELOWS91 said:

The hate for Palmer and Nuhiu around me in the Grandstand is unreal. It seriously makes me wonder what some people's motivation is to go. It's like they just go to let off frustration by shouting and balling at our own players. Bizarre.

 

 

These players [and countless one before them] have been saving marriages across South Yorkshire for generations.

 

Everyone knows going to the football is a release of 6 or 13 days of suppressed household resentment, frustration, disappointment and even anger. 

 

Rabid of the Grandstand needs these players as much as they need them...

 

[fred mciver]

Westy would've sorted above , while no young keeper's gonna verbal Bannon et al to sort it.

 

Chansiri is to blame  - for our lack of clean sheets.

 

 

[cookeh]

1st goal.. Palmer could have stepped up when he got to the back line formed by Lees and Thorniley.. it can be a dangerous thing to do tho, as you end up with a player free behind the back line who could become involved is play develops. Can understand why Palmer went with him. Once the ball is received, the problem is that Thorniley has got out the way to let Afobe thru. If Afobe's not there or Thorniley is with him, I think we've averted the goal as Palmer is close enough to make the shot difficult. So responsibility lies with Palmer and Thorniley, more the later tho imo.. you can't just let the centerforward run past you like that, at worst you should be body checking him and concededing the free kick.

 

2nd goal.. Bannan needs a shout from the players behind him (Lees, Thorniley) to step right and block the pass. Can only assume it didn't come. Throut the whole play Thorniley doesn't really know where Afobe is, tho at one point gestures as it he's handing him off to Lees, who already has a man to mark. When the pass comes in, Thorniley has his hand on Afobe;s shoulder, but lets him spin and run away from him again. Once more he needs to either go with or physically be in the way so Afobe can't just sprint thru. Penney sees Afobe go free and tries to get across but is the wrong side and can't tackle from there.

 

So both goals are ultimately down to Thorniley failing to deal with Afobe's runs off him.

[N0rtherner]

20 hours ago, davetherivelinowl said:

Just watched the highlights back.

 

Ist goal Biram Diouf receives a pass behind our centre-halves. How did that happen? Diouf was out wide being marked by Palmer but he drifts inside. Palmer should either get tight to him or better still leave him to run offside. He does neither. So he's able to pick up a pass behind our centre-halves because Palmer is some yards behind them and playing him onside. He gives it to Afobe who finishes well. So sloppy from Palmer.

 

 

That is true, but Palmer would've handled Biram Diouf if he'd try to turn with the ball there... however, Lees and Thorniley are both outplayed letting Afobe run through them to receive the pass from Biram Diouf... sloppy from all three.

[Hack-Abusi]

defensively from midfield we weren't up to scratch for the 2 goals ..

 

weak challenges, poor marking, no desire to get back ..

 

 

[debram]

On 16/09/2018 at 17:30, debram said:

!st goal Matt Penney, deep in stokes half their player went past him like he wasnt there and his effort to get back was poor.

In his defence, he was high up the pitch in an offensive position which is positive news, at last we are trying to be on the offensive, well done Jos.