Beholder Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 They don't like us do they? One game after another ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Did Loovens play the ball? If not it's a red card and a penalty. If he did it's a yellow and a penalty. Either way if he's fouled him the ref has to give a penalty. As I type this hooper just been brought down in box from behind but no penalty given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night King Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Clear pen and clear red card. He’s not attempted to make a tackle at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Cant keep blaming referees for our failings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just seen it, ref got it right. The players and manager are the problem, not the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, latemodelchild said: Just seen it, ref got it right. The players and manager are the problem, not the refs. yet you just said Hooper just got brought down from behind in the box and nothing given. I think refs are one of many problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 On the flip side looks like he missed Westwood handling out of the box. So he’s at least consistently bobbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, marcx666 said: yet you just said Hooper just got brought down from behind in the box and nothing given. I think refs are one of many problems And when I've seen that one I'll pass comment. As it stands excuses are being made for poor play. I highly doubt there is a concerted effort by the refereeing community to cause us problems. Good teams don't rely on luck from the ref. They make them inconsequential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 You know what? Feck it, sounds like fletcher just been ignored for a pen too. We're getting shafted by referees and there is nothing we can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1867 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 It's easy to blame refs to take the blame from our own failings. The truth is Loovens deserved to be sent off, challenge in the box with no attempt to play the ball. We are not being victimised. We cant keep blaming bad luck or poor refs for us being crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, David1867 said: It's easy to blame refs to take the blame from our own failings. The truth is Loovens deserved to be sent off, challenge in the box with no attempt to play the ball. We are not being victimised. We cant keep blaming bad luck or poor refs for us being crap. Yeah but I'm not saying Loovrens didnt deserve to get sent off, but, if we have been turned down and ignored on two penalty shouts that were pens, then referees are part of the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, marcx666 said: Yeah but I'm not saying Loovrens didnt deserve to get sent off, but, if we have been turned down and ignored on two penalty shouts that were pens, then referees are part of the problem I'm agreeing with this now. Trouble is, it means we are crap and the refs are against us. Both issues are causing us problems. Both issues are to blame for our current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 It was a red. Read the rules. And it all sprang from a player running at Loovens. Surprise, surprise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, latemodelchild said: I'm agreeing with this now. Trouble is, it means we are crap and the refs are against us. Both issues are causing us problems. Both issues are to blame for our current situation. Aye, thats the other half of the problem, is that we, be it Carlos, or players are both, are the other half of the problem. So either way we are f*cked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, owlZfan84 said: It was a red. Read the rules. And it all sprang from a player running at Loovens. Surprise, surprise. I thought you weren't supposed to get given a penalty against and a red card these days. Double punishment. does that not apply in the champ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneTheOwl Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 The refs have been terrible this season; which matches our performances also. The two together are just too much to take. If Carlos does not go after today if we lose of course, then Chansiri is his own fool. If I'd spent 70m, 30 months on I'd be pretty worried about my money and do something about it quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, marcx666 said: Yeah but I'm not saying Loovrens didnt deserve to get sent off, but, if we have been turned down and ignored on two penalty shouts that were pens, then referees are part of the problem I think that the real problems are the speed of the game and the refusal of the powers that be to bring in video technology. Factor in the one eyed fans (of all clubs), cheating players and that cameras are at all matches allowing laymen to freeze frame and replay constantly and it adds up to a nightmare for referees. Who'd be a ref? Not me for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, NorthernOwl said: I thought you weren't supposed to get given a penalty against and a red card these days. Double punishment. does that not apply in the champ? Same in all the football league. Depends on whether the player made a genuine attempt to play the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, David1867 said: It's easy to blame refs to take the blame from our own failings. The truth is Loovens deserved to be sent off, challenge in the box with no attempt to play the ball. We are not being victimised. We cant keep blaming bad luck or poor refs for us being crap. You telling me if that incident had happened at the other end involving Keogh and Hooper, that we'd have got a penalty and Keogh would've been sent off. No f***ng way and it's been like this for years. Yes we're struggling at the moment but referees are supposed to be impartial but every 50/50 call goes against us. No wonder Carlos hasn't got much hair left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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