Paul Triplo Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 To be fair Karwanka has always heaped praise on Nuhiu. Once said he was unplayable. We should offer a straight swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I think that boat has sailed. Boro cocked up getting a player they never really wanted. Rhodes cocked up too by chasing the money: he could have stayed at Blackburn and seen his contract out. The only solution is for Boro and/or Rhodes to cut their losses: discount transfer fee and lower wages, or for a panic stricken club with parachute payments or premier league money to come in for him. Cant see Norwich or Villa moving for him, nor Newcastle (depends on Gayle injury?). And none of the lower Prem teams look interested. Anything more than £5m and sensible wages and we should steer clear and settle for what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatfordOwl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Paul Triplo said: To be fair Karwanka has always heaped praise on Nuhiu. Once said he was unplayable. We should offer a straight swap. Karwanka though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 cant we forget Rhodes, hes over priced plus the big wages, we have Hooper, Fessie, Winnall and Fletch, if we get Hourihane that should do us for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 We really do not need Rhodes. We have FF, Fletcher, Hooper and Winnall, as well as Joao. I would much rather we spend the wages on a centre back in case Lees or Loovens gets injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tamworthowl said: I think that boat has sailed. Boro cocked up getting a player they never really wanted. Rhodes cocked up too by chasing the money: he could have stayed at Blackburn and seen his contract out. The only solution is for Boro and/or Rhodes to cut their losses: discount transfer fee and lower wages, or for a panic stricken club with parachute payments or premier league money to come in for him. Cant see Norwich or Villa moving for him, nor Newcastle (depends on Gayle injury?). And none of the lower Prem teams look interested. Anything more than £5m and sensible wages and we should steer clear and settle for what we have. Rhodes was contracted to Blackburn until July 2019 when Boro signing him in January 2016. I doubt he'd have been happy staying at Blackburn for over 3 years until his contract expired. Rhodes' contract with Boro expires just a year later than his Blackburn was due to, so given Rhodes will have increased his salary, received a pretty chunky signing on fee as part of an £11m transfer, and is a Premier League player rather than scrapping a relegation battle in the Championship, signing for Boro was a sensible move. Think Rhodes' biggest mistake was signing the contract extension at Blackburn in 2014 - he'd have been a free agent this summer based on his initial contract. Edited January 16, 2017 by oh_weds_we_love_you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: We really do not need Rhodes. We have FF, Fletcher, Hooper and Winnall, as well as Joao. I would much rather we spend the wages on a centre back in case Lees or Loovens gets injured. Problem with that is finding someone better than Sasso who is prepared to come and sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, helmut_rooster said: Think it's fair to say now we have winnall, we wont be buying Rhodes. Just a hunch Thats not what the RS boys seem to think - I must admit I would be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Problem with that is finding someone better than Sasso who is prepared to come and sit on the bench. Everyone keeps saying this. Why is it any different to signing Winnall when we already have lots of strikers and he still came. Any defender we sign will have to compete for a place. It's the only area we have no competition in. Sasso is never going to dislodge Lees and Loovens but with Loovens approaching 34 any young defender will know they will get their chance eventually whilst learning off a full international. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cersei Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: 1. You didn't say circa £40. 2. c. 20,000 inside Hillsborough this season are season ticket holders who paid nowhere near £36/39/43 a match. 3. A percentage of those inside Hillsborough this season will be members, who also don't pay £36/39/43 a match. 4. A percentage of those inside Hillsborough this season will be entitled to concession prices, which aren't £36/39/43 a match. 5. How many games this season have been the £36/39/43 category? But you already know this! Alright mate, yeah ticket prices are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 23 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: Middlesbrough are also after another forward, Stoke's Bojan, so it's a good bet Rhodes will go this transfer window, either permanently or on loan (for about £2 million). Much as I would like to see JR in an Owls' shirt I think it's too much to pay for a player that will probably not be the difference between play-offs and automatic. If Villa want to splash the cash, so be it, they might then lose one or two of their other targets. This is very sensible. Our current squad is play-off material and should be there come May, but we are more than Jordan Rhodes away from passing Brighton and Newcastle. If we are still in the Championship next season, then take a look at Rhodes in the summer. But now does seem like a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIOwl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 He isn't available as a bargain and I don't think he's worth the asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: Everyone keeps saying this. Why is it any different to signing Winnall when we already have lots of strikers and he still came. Any defender we sign will have to compete for a place. It's the only area we have no competition in. Sasso is never going to dislodge Lees and Loovens but with Loovens approaching 34 any young defender will know they will get their chance eventually whilst learning off a full international. In the summer we clearly tried to get a centre half to come in a compete with Loovens and Lees, but seemingly no-one capable fancied it and Sasso was our fall-back guy. Given Loovens and Lees performance so far this season, it's going to be even more difficult for a new centre half to come in and compete for their place, so why would our position from the summer change now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cersei said: Alright mate, yeah ticket prices are great. Aye, I didn't say that either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 This just needs to stop now. Its almost nauseating. We have 6 strikers for crying out loud, at least 1 maybe 2 of Forestieri, Fletcher, Winnall and Hooper aren't even guaranteed a start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RocketOwl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, oh_weds_we_love_you said: In the summer we clearly tried to get a centre half to come in a compete with Loovens and Lees, but seemingly no-one capable fancied it and Sasso was our fall-back guy. Given Loovens and Lees performance so far this season, it's going to be even more difficult for a new centre half to come in and compete for their place, so why would our position from the summer change now? It won't be a case of a defender not fancying us. No one signs for a team and walks straight in you have to earn it and have the right attiude. Winnall has signed knowing we have Hooper, FF and Fletcher. It's more of a case probably that we signed a cheap last minute option in Sasso - but that doesn't change the fact an injury to Lees or Loovens puts us in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, RocketOwl said: We really do not need Rhodes. We have FF, Fletcher, Hooper and Winnall, as well as Joao. I would much rather we spend the wages on a centre back in case Lees or Loovens gets injured. Nuhiu was on the bench this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 We've a first team squad of approx 40 players, we need some stability in the side. You only had to look at Mcmanaman's seemingly unhappy response to not playing from the start to see what kind of issues this can lead to. Just adding more players does not make sense till we get rid of the dead wood first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangeroustom Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 My money is on dirty Leeds going for it and what will be worse is he will probably score the goals to take them up! Wouldnt that be a real sicken-er! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: This is very sensible. Our current squad is play-off material and should be there come May, but we are more than Jordan Rhodes away from passing Brighton and Newcastle. If we are still in the Championship next season, then take a look at Rhodes in the summer. But now does seem like a waste of money. I agree that our current squad is play off material, and that JR is unlikely to push us into top two. But are we currently play off WINNING material? If not, would JR make us so? What Chansiri should be looking at is how to get from "top six" to play off winners. JR may be the answer. Personally, I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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