bradowl Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 No fight, no desire. I've seen Wednesday playing by far the better football for a lot of the games so far this season, as soon as things start not going to plan heads drop and the players are like mardy school children not getting their own way, petulant and pathetic. Individually we are good enough, the problem is not the players at disposal, but attitude. That comes from authority, i.e managers. Showed loads of desire today and come from behind in our last 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Howard Wilkinson said look at league table after 12 games and thats a good estimate to where u will finish.so on that yes we are Only played 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Howard Wilkinson said look at league table after 12 games and thats a good estimate to where u will finish.so on that yes we are We were second bottom this time last year after 12 games Ipswich were bottom Middlesborough were 3rd Huddersfield were 7th Wolves were 6th I don't really care what Howard Wilkinson said Watford were 15th Blackburn were 5th Hull were 9th Edited October 19, 2013 by EcclesallOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 and we are hoping lightning strikes twice and a miracle recovery is on the cards , but does it really happen or are we in cloud cuckoo land , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheowls Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) We were second bottom this time last year after 12 games Ipswich were bottom Middlesborough were 3rd Huddersfield were 7th Wolves were 6th I don't really care what Howard Wilkinson said Watford were 15th Blackburn were 5th Hull were 9th People on here dont like hearing facts or sense so youre wasting your breath Edited October 19, 2013 by uptheowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 How can you blame Jones for today? IMO he set us up right and apart from one crazy decision we would have won. Bad mistake for their goal...I don't think DJ coaches them to do that but by far the better team. Putting JJ on , when Fryatt was clearly k-nacked almost won us the game. I think you will find people can blame Jones for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgowl Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 We have taken 7 points out of a possible 33 and yet people still think Jones is the right man for the job because we have played well today. The fact is we have scraped a draw today from a own goal . Jones has got to go his time is up! We can't carry on getting the odd point here and there this will send us down. And none of us want to see OUR club back in league 1 do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest james.taylor1982 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Never fear lads the development team are just fine ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Just got home and I may a touch tipsy but bar one mistake we should have won today. We were by far the better team and no way can you sack jones after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BaRmY OwLs Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I think you will find people can blame Jones for anything. Yea like the bellend near us behind the goal about 4 rows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubled123456 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 And those wanting Jones out will feel same when we shoot up table. This. I think you will find people can blame Jones for anything. like not winning this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 decisions right , ffs we played zayette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightace Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) I can understand why people think jones might keep us up,He managed it last year and he has this reputation of being a good manager(not sure myself).But to be honest just scraping up isn't good enough. I also understand peoples reluctance to change manager yet again. I feel he's done half a job.We don't look whipping boys but I have a feeling he can't take us any further. So we gamble or stick with jones. I'd rather go down trying to win games and try and trying to find a manager with some fresh ideas. Btw I negged a couple of people because I saw some of the same old boring comments about people wanting to ignore facts and wanting jones to fail and blame him for everything. No one wants him to fail just to be proved right. Edited October 19, 2013 by Eightace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 This. like not winning this season? There are enough actual issues to blame Jones for without making sh it up and blaming him for everything, like a fairly sized proportion of Owlstalk seems to want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Not going down Isnt there relegation this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhouston Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 We were a lot worse last season Most said we would go down Agree with this. We were by far a lot worse last season. Our football is coming a lot better, but we REALLY need this win to get the team relaxing. As soon as we get it then I do feel it'll make a huge difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 If we can't afford to sign someone like *** on a free. Then we probably can't afford to sack a manager. We're stuck in a room with one door. Unfortunately that door opens from the outside and only someone willing to takeover is waiting on the other side. There's no world beating loanee door and there's no new manager door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Isnt there relegation this season? Not for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Not many are behind jones yet another match I've been to and still not spoke to a real life jones inner There a myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Not for us Can you really see us gaining at least 42 more points this season? Arguably we've in our easiest run of 9 games this season Millwall - Barnsley and we've got 6 points so far. Even a win at the dingles is a poor return. Admire your optimism, if its genuine and not dependant on a takeover. Edited October 19, 2013 by zzmdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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