Sefton owl Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Does this depress anyone else as much as me? I for one hope we don't rely on the loan system as much as last season. Listening to praise or grumble the other night, SG was put under pressure by having us compared with Burnley last season who had a really settled squad, and a small one at that. Do people think we could pull off a 'Burnley'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Do people think we could pull off a 'Burnley'? I'd need at least 15 pints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 We'd re-use a condom if it came from the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) who we get could make difference between playoffs and mid table. But yeah- i hate it too. Just the way of football though in this country. Edited September 21, 2014 by Beholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 We are where we are. We have seen some great loan players over the years that ordinarily our finances wouldn't have allowed. More a negative reflection on the premier league than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 who we get could make difference between playoffs and mid table. But yeah- i hate it too. Just the way of football though in this country. I do agree... Jamie Vardy probably off the cards now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) Even Burnley had a couple of loan players, particularly Michael Kightly who was a MASSIVE player for them. Burnley managed to do without loaning more players because they were extremely lucky with injuries, up until April anyway when Ings & Vokes both got injured. But they were virtually up then anyway. I think their squad was even smaller than ours. Dyche said that their secret was keeping everyone fit. We don't have that luck. Two more players of absolute quality at this level & we'll be sweet I reckon.Ravel Morrison or Diego Poyet from West Ham & Tom Lawrence from Leicester would suit me. A winger and a creative mid is of a higher priority for me than a striker. We could bring in the best striker available, but without service he'll do no better than May or Nuhiu. If loaning in a creative mid & a winger doesn't sort things out it is THEN that we should look for a striker. Not the other way around. Edited September 21, 2014 by FlyingOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Gone quiet re Chris Wood- surely with Vardy and the Argentine fella finding form and Sclupp coming on today he's the most likely to go out on loan (or I'd he injured?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UpTheOwlsss Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Knockaert hasn't been playing get him in ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC3 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Knockaert hasn't been playing get him in ! He's been injured and only started running again a month ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Does this depress anyone else as much as me? I for one hope we don't rely on the loan system as much as last season. Listening to praise or grumble the other night, SG was put under pressure by having us compared with Burnley last season who had a really settled squad, and a small one at that. Do people think we could pull off a 'Burnley'? I'd rather have us improve our squad with the right players if we can and if that means getting Premier League reserve players so be it. The problem we've had with our loans previosuly is that we've got the players in, got them fit and into some form, and then had to give them back - what we need is players that are surplus to requirements and can stay for the entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Hate the loan system personally ,but needs must if it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The Premier League is obscene. Burnley will pay but a fleeting visit, providing temporary entertainment, and freshening up, for one season only, what has become a stale environment for the development of our national game. Same teams, same outcomes, with the odd visitor from the Championship who might entertain like a new toy at Christmas, to be abandoned by February. The Premier League will eventually kill itself through greed, and only at this point, will the rest of the Football League be asked to join in discussions to rescue our national game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mancunian_Owl Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Does this depress anyone else as much as me? I for one hope we don't rely on the loan system as much as last season. Listening to praise or grumble the other night, SG was put under pressure by having us compared with Burnley last season who had a really settled squad, and a small one at that. Do people think we could pull off a 'Burnley'? I wouldn't pull off anyone from Burnley, thats how you catch things?! There is no point comparing our situation to anyone else's, we have a different squad, a different style of management, different financial implications and different goals from pretty much every other team. Whatsmore the Championship has 6 new teams in it this year to last year, making it a completely different competition. I for one look forward to us doing a "Wednesday" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The Premier League is obscene. Burnley will pay but a fleeting visit, providing temporary entertainment, and freshening up, for one season only, what has become a stale environment for the development of our national game. Same teams, same outcomes, with the odd visitor from the Championship who might entertain like a new toy at Christmas, to be abandoned by February. The Premier League will eventually kill itself through greed, and only at this point, will the rest of the Football League be asked to join in discussions to rescue our national game. That last point you just made about the Premier League being greedy is very reminicent of the Investment Bankers in the Finanicial markets just before 2008 crash.Their couldn't care less attitude towards everyone else nearly brought the country to it's knees.The same contemptable attitude is now being displayed by the likes of Scudamore and his cronies in the PL and it is this attitude that will bring football to it's knees in this country in the longer term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 It's more to do with how the PL are top heavy and therefore need to loan out players to give them game time. Why should we be left behind in that respect? If we didn't get Wickham last season we could well have got relegated. On the flip-side, had Sunderland not taken him back they too could have got relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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