Bluesteel. Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, morganowl said: im 99% sure sunderland will beat wycombe quite easily in final , but say if they lose there heads get a man sent off and fail i want to see the mackems faces when they fail . when there mad and losing its wonderful to see , i got great pleasure watching there fans vent after all there losses after they did us 5-0 If Wycombe go 1 up and start sitting on the floor and slowing the game down I’ll look forward to Alex Neil’s face 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-owls Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Sour grapes. What is it? A fifteen match unbeaten run or something since he took over at Sunderland? Tactically he had Moore on toast over the two legs and his team deserved to go through. As for moaning that he made three substitutes in injury time. So what? Not one of us would have had a problem if we were in that position and slowing the game down as much as possible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, HIGHERSTATE said: its not like me, but I hope they fkup after seeing their reaction today. we all hate wycombe and there manager but i actually want them to beat sunderland now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, g-owls said: Sour grapes. Yes.....and..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, morganowl said: we all hate wycombe and there manager but i actually want them to beat sunderland now I'm sort of seeing it as a no lose scenario. I will take a bit of satisfaction with whoever loses. Part of me would love to give Sunderland a proper hammering next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, g-owls said: Sour grapes. What is it? A fifteen match unbeaten run or something since he took over at Sunderland? Tactically he had Moore on toast over the two legs and his team deserved to go through. As for moaning that he made three substitutes in injury time. So what? Not one of us would have had a problem if we were in that position and slowing the game down as much as possible. he totally transformed sunderland beat by dony at home smashed 6-0 at bolton and so on then 15 unbeaten , he is 100x a better manager than d moore ,, does he play nice football nah is he a bit of a nob yer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, SiJ said: And it should be pointed out that our manager - with no tactics - managed to amass 85 points and lost to Alex Guardiola by virtue of a last minute goal. But we DID lose. There’s no question he out manoeuvred and out thought DM in the tactical stakes. We knew what was coming and didn’t respond. After we’d equalised and there were only a few minutes to go, why were we chasing the game as if it was a league game and eventually leaving ourselves open at the back. Why take chances when there was extra time to be had, when we had all the momentum and we’d run them ragged in the last twenty minutes. Total naivety, where a more astute manager would have read the situation and acted accordingly and finished them off in extra time. Just another example of his not grasping situations as they unravel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: I'm sort of seeing it as a no lose scenario. I will take a bit of satisfaction with whoever loses. Part of me would love to give Sunderland a proper hammering next season. i agree .. also it would have been much worse losing to sunderland at wembley with 45000 of them and 45000 of us , it would have been carnage kicking off etc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, bigthinrob said: But we DID lose. There’s no question he out manoeuvred and out thought DM in the tactical stakes. We knew what was coming and didn’t respond. After we’d equalised and there were only a few minutes to go, why were we chasing the game as if it was a league game and eventually leaving ourselves open at the back. Why take chances when there was extra time to be had, when we had all the momentum and we’d run them ragged in the last twenty minutes. Total naivety, where a more astute manager would have read the situation and acted accordingly and finished them off in extra time. Just another example of his not grasping situations as they unravel. True...but everyone in the ground could see we had the upper hand for 5 to 10 minutes and they were rocking (slightly)..It would have just taken a bit of quality (like bannans pass) for us to win.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-owls Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I said to my old man around Christmas time when we were hammered at Sunderland and beat at Shrewsbury, that Moore, as nice a bloke he is, should be replaced with what at the time, was an out of work manager. Alex Neil. I don’t care if he comes across as a miserable character, or that he knows all the dark arts of the game. He’s a better tactician than the one we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, HIGHERSTATE said: True...but everyone in the ground could see we had the upper hand for 5 to 10 minutes and they were rocking (slightly)..It would have just taken a bit of quality (like bannans pass) for us to win.. Sorry to repeat myself but we didn’t. A less naive manager would have been screaming NOT to compromise what we’d already got by chasing the result in normal time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Sorry to repeat myself but we didn’t. A less naive manager would have been screaming NOT to compromise what we’d already got by chasing the result in normal time. Hindsight doesn't win you football matches. I agree with you looking back, but at the time we were all riding on a wave..Maybe that was the plan all along to try and tire them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGP71 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On a side note, Sunderland have been allocated 37500 tickets for the playoff final. Wycombe have just over 19000, which could go up to 28000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, HIGHERSTATE said: Hindsight doesn't win you football matches. I agree with you looking back, but at the time we were all riding on a wave..Maybe that was the plan all along to try and tire them out. No maybe not, but astute management clearly does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, HIGHERSTATE said: Hindsight doesn't win you football matches. I agree with you looking back, but at the time we were all riding on a wave..Maybe that was the plan all along to try and tire them out. I mean, I thought we were the ones going to get the winner before full time. It didn't happen and then we get sucker punched. It's all a bit Captain Hindsight in here, but then some people are so set against Moore that it's a waste of time arguing with them. He's tactically naïve, lucky when we win, completely culpable when we lose, sticks too rigidly to his system, makes changes all the times. Could go on and on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, bigthinrob said: No maybe not, but astute management clearly does. For what it's worth i'm still on the fence about Moore...But after what came before he's done a decent job. Yea decent is an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassy knoll Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 People can moan about Alex Neils tactics etc, but Sunderland showed some balls sacking their manager when 3rd, we could have done the same when we was 8th but didn’t have the balls to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast of Boulogne Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 hours ago, TodwickOwl said: Can’t decide whether I want them to go up and back down or get sucker punched by Wycombe and see him gutted Hes a proper arsehole of the game I hope Wycombe get an own goal in the first minute then 5hithoose it for the next 89 mins . & then he can stick that up his pipe . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 hours ago, brando said: Yeah cos over 2 games we were Man City He outclassed Moore,that's why were going to Forest Green and their going to Watford next season.. And player wise they are no better than us....tactics.... Agree that Neil out thought and out coached Moore over the entirety of the tie. But disagree about the players. Pritchard, Robert’s and Stewart all significantly better than any of our attacking players and all three turned up and contributed in both legs when it mattered most. Baath the best defender on view by some distance. Put to bed once and for all the blue tinted misconception that we had the best squad and the best player in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Potts Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Their head injuries (that required treatment on the pitch) seemed to occur at really fortuitous moments. From memory there was one early that prevented Wednesday getting into a rhythm. One after we scored that killed the impetus and the Hutch incident (which noticeably Hutch came off worse from). I may be wrong on that, but that was my recollection. Either way, I’m sure it was just a fortunate coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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