Guest hirstysfags Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 To be properly modern and "woke", shouldn't it be "a gender"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Southside Owl said: ...and back to club identity and team identity.. eg Millwall, where does image,(rightly or wrongly)... reputation and team style crossover.. It doesnt It's like the actual team and their fans/culture are two totally separate things entirely Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside Owl Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It doesnt It's like the actual team and their fans/culture are two totally separate things entirely yes point taken i widened it out too far there.. lets just keep it at team .. still say its just style though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, Southside Owl said: yes point taken i widened it out too far there.. lets just keep it at team .. still say its just style though That's my belief too mate 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Nobody has yet defined for me what a team 'identity' actually is I'll try to identify what identity means. Identity is what makes us different to other teams. If we play in red shirts, white shorts and red socks on Tuesday at Forest, we would look like the home team and would lack our individual identity. This would be our best chance of winning, but unfortunately the referee would not allow it. Our identity as a team is the club colours. Players come and go, but the colours remain. Or would do if people like Eric Taylor and Chansiri had not forced us to look like Ipswich clones (clowns?) during periods of our history. Player wise, few of our players have identity, especially if you're watching on I follow with a mobile phone. Bannan is the fair haired midget and Atdhe used to be the big friendly trundling giant. The one who chases everything down on his own up front is called Josh. The rest are much of a muchness and don't have identity as far as I know. Hope that helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Lincs Owl said: I'll try to identify what identity means. Identity is what makes us different to other teams. If we play in red shirts, white shorts and red socks on Tuesday at Forest, we would look like the home team and would lack our individual identity. This would be our best chance of winning, but unfortunately the referee would not allow it. Our identity as a team is the club colours. Players come and go, but the colours remain. Or would do if people like Eric Taylor and Chansiri had not forced us to look like Ipswich clones (clowns?) during periods of our history. Player wise, few of our players have identity, especially if you're watching on I follow with a mobile phone. Bannan is the fair haired midget and Atdhe used to be the big friendly trundling giant. The one who chases everything down on his own up front is called Josh. The rest are much of a muchness and don't have identity as far as I know. Hope that helps. So why is pulis saying we lack an identity It's blue and white stripes He's reyt weird that 'Tone' isnt' he? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Tony Pulis keeps speaking that the team doesn't have an 'identity' Yesterday he said: "The balance of the team is so, so important. And an identity within that balance is important." What do you think is a team's identity? Can you give a real life example? How important do you think it is for a team to have an identity? Do all other teams have an identity? Why is this like an exam? What's the meaning of life? How important is a team's 'identity'? I think id get a C- if i was lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Does style simply refer to on the field or play whereas identify is the club as a collective? Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 We're on page 4 and nobody can agree on what an 'identity' is for a team THIS SPEAKS VOLUMES Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: So why is pulis saying we lack an identity It's blue and white stripes He's reyt weird that 'Tone' isnt' he? That Brentford centre forward? We'd have identity all right if he played for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: I'll try to identify what identity means. Identity is what makes us different to other teams. If we play in red shirts, white shorts and red socks on Tuesday at Forest, we would look like the home team and would lack our individual identity. This would be our best chance of winning, but unfortunately the referee would not allow it. Our identity as a team is the club colours. Players come and go, but the colours remain. Or would do if people like Eric Taylor and Chansiri had not forced us to look like Ipswich clones (clowns?) during periods of our history. Player wise, few of our players have identity, especially if you're watching on I follow with a mobile phone. Bannan is the fair haired midget and Atdhe used to be the big friendly trundling giant. The one who chases everything down on his own up front is called Josh. The rest are much of a muchness and don't have identity as far as I know. Hope that helps. So it's just a visual thing?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Of Course a team / football club can have an identity!!! It’s the integrity of a football club, how its run , how’s its styled and the Philosophy of the style of play. Identity does just mean the 11 players on the pitch it means everything - the structure of the football club , the non playing staff. Ottmar hitzfeld was very passionate about creating an identity to his football clubs / teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 I wonder if - when Pulis was talking about 'identity' - he really meant 'a load of really big tall chunky players' Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Lincs Owl said: That Brentford centre forward? We'd have identity all right if he played for us. Who? Toney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, Markowski77 said: Of Course a team / football club can have an identity!!! It’s the integrity of a football club, how its run , how’s its styled and the Philosophy of the style of play. Identity does just mean the 11 players on the pitch it means everything - the structure of the football club , the non playing staff. Ottmar hitzfeld was very passionate about creating an identity to his football clubs / teams That's the culture or brand or 'mission statement' isn't it? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hirstysfags Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I wonder if - when Pulis was talking about 'identity' - he really meant 'a load of really big tall chunky players' They are the tools that would achieve our identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: That's the culture or brand or 'mission statement' isn't it? nope - I think your just looking at ways to disagree with people personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We're on page 4 and nobody can agree on what an 'identity' is for a team THIS SPEAKS VOLUMES Scott Parker just used it to describe Fulham n’all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: So it's like the "X Factor" If that's the case why doesn't Pulis just say we have one? Nobody would be any the wiser In marketing speak it would be positioning. The cheapest, the best or the best value. Slow build up quick on the counter, fast passing game, etc.. Pulis sides would be physical, strong defensively and scoring from set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Markowski77 said: nope - I think your just looking at ways to disagree with people personally Okay mate (you can't tell anyone what a team 'identity' is tho can you?) Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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