Nero Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Normally i would say man for man is the way to go on corners but we are getting absolutely pulled to pieces. QPR and Bristol could have done us several times, Brentford did and had other chances. We are getting moved around and are stupidly leavng the penalty spot wide open or one on one. Until we sort it out we need togo zonal marking. Its not ideal but weve been found out and we needto change. Its simpler and would at least make teams think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 So our players struggle to stay with the man they are suppose to be responsible for. How do you think they will do when you take that responsibility away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: So our players struggle to stay with the man they are suppose to be responsible for. How do you think they will do when you take that responsibility away. Do you know what zonal marking is? Thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, Nero said: Do you know what zonal marking is? Thats it. Explain it better..zonal marking from corners when there’s sometimes no room to breath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Nero said: Do you know what zonal marking is? Thats it. yes but if they cant stay with one man. they will just all look at each other when a man is free for a header. they will blame each other. It rarely works well with good defences letalone one like ours. Edited October 22, 2020 by pazowl55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Normally the penalty box is a crowded mess for corners whIch makes it easier to block , hold or whatever to stop forwards getting a free run or jump. Brentford seemed to create space and get one on ones as they did with the goal. The trouble with man to man marking is that the attacking side can dictate who gets into the dangerous areas and on the ball. Flint was marking their centre half and the centre half stayed way beyond the far post and the ball never went anywhere near them. So Flint didn’t clear any corners. Meanwhile they isolated Toney on Odubajo at the near post and sent the ball there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurcroft owl 72 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Marking man for man is fine if its done correctly. Which it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Zonal is horrific. How about our defenders actually show a desire to defend? Odubajo was pathetic for the goal, Toney wanted the ball, he didn’t, you still have that same scenario in a Zonal system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls1992 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 We can’t go zonal with this squad of players. They fail to take responsibility at the best of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I thought we did Covid marking, stay safe keep 2 metres apart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 hours ago, 0wl18 said: Zonal is horrific. How about our defenders actually show a desire to defend? Odubajo was pathetic for the goal, Toney wanted the ball, he didn’t, you still have that same scenario in a Zonal system. Disagree, I thought he was out muscled by a stronger bloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 One man on each post, the two big centre halfs on their big forwards, our “ handy in the air” forwards picking up their “ handy in the air players “ and three others in the area and on their toes should the ball come in their direction. Is that zonal marking ? Thats how we used to do it with the Dog and Duck X1 and it always seemed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, full fathom five said: I thought we did Covid marking, stay safe keep 2 metres apart I thought that we adopted diarrhoea marking...weak, all over the place and falling apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Nero said: Normally i would say man for man is the way to go on corners but we are getting absolutely pulled to pieces. QPR and Bristol could have done us several times, Brentford did and had other chances. We are getting moved around and are stupidly leavng the penalty spot wide open or one on one. Until we sort it out we need togo zonal marking. Its not ideal but weve been found out and we needto change. Its simpler and would at least make teams think. Said exactly the same in another thread. We clearly can’t man for man defend. Zonal mark your particular area and attack the ball at its highest point. Brentford just walked Flint away. If you look at the goal again most of the penalty box was free space. Looked awful. Someone on the pitch needs to take responsibility and make those calls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 4 hours ago, edwinowl said: Said exactly the same in another thread. We clearly can’t man for man defend. Zonal mark your particular area and attack the ball at its highest point. Brentford just walked Flint away. If you look at the goal again most of the penalty box was free space. Looked awful. Someone on the pitch needs to take responsibility and make those calls. Its not just Brentford. QPR were setting players up well away from the danger zone and keeping all of our decent headers out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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