Sgt Wednesday Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, owler66 said: Only if we go down they ain't promotion championship players Technically Van Aken is outstanding, he just needs to do everything quicker, clearly the Dutch league is slower to the EC, he will adapt. Pelupessy is an alternative option to Sam Hutch and an upgrade on promotion winning David Jones. Put him in our best 11 and he can focus on his own game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-owls Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Woodyowl450 said: Jack Colback is on loan to forest I believe so wouldn’t have cost anything to bring in transfer fee wise. He still needs paying his wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, Sgt Wednesday said: Technically Van Aken is outstanding, he just needs to do everything quicker, clearly the Dutch league is slower to the EC, he will adapt. Pelupessy is an alternative option to Sam Hutch and an upgrade on promotion winning David Jones. Put him in our best 11 and he can focus on his own game. You honestly think Joey is an upgrade on Jones? From what I’ve seen so far (and yes it’s early days so he may come good) Jones is five times the player that Joey is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 We need to stop all this foreign rounduns & go British next manager needs to be British & when he’s announced on swfc twitter I want the hashtag #brexit at the end WTID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wednesday Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, Holmowl said: You honestly think Joey is an upgrade on Jones? From what I’ve seen so far (and yes it’s early days so he may come good) Jones is five times the player that Joey is. David Jones is what he is, a steady player, he's neat and tidy in possession but struggles to get about the pitch. Jones is not a holding midfield player because he's not mobile enough. We have to remember why we have that player sat in there, mainly to break up opposition play, to stop the ball into the number 9 and to pick up any player dropping into the number 10, Jones cant do that role because any decent number 10 would school boy Jones. Jones would work better alongside a Joey or a Hutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sgt Wednesday said: David Jones is what he is, a steady player, he's neat and tidy in possession but struggles to get about the pitch. Jones is not a holding midfield player because he's not mobile enough. We have to remember why we have that player sat in there, mainly to break up opposition play, to stop the ball into the number 9 and to pick up any player dropping into the number 10, Jones cant do that role because any decent number 10 would school boy Jones. Jones would work better alongside a Joey or a Hutch. But my point is, who is a better CM than Jones among our currently fit players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Seriously, Messi would struggle in our team at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Holmowl said: But my point is, who is a better CM than Jones among our currently fit players? I tend to agree with your general point. What I will say about Jones is that he's terribly inconsistent...like a few others granted. He needs to bang in a string of good performances to gain my trust....and that goes for quite a few of our squad. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I think it’s a bit harsh on him. hes shown some good stuff and arrived in a side in free fall - give him a chance next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, Costello 77 said: I tend to agree with your general point. What I will say about Jones is that he's terribly inconsistent...like a few others granted. He needs to bang in a string of good performances to gain my trust....and that goes for quite a few of our squad. FFS. I disagree. I think Jones is consistently ok. He has the occasional great game, the occasional poor game, but more often than not is a 6.5/7.5 out of 10. By contrast Joey is largely poor. The lad has time to improve, but no way is he a decent Championship CB right now. I also think Reach is far better utilized wide than central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rhubarb n Custard said: Seriously, Messi would struggle in our team at the moment. Agreed...but what a unique chance to shine....for some it won't come round again. It's an unlocked door..if you've got character and skill you should kick it open..... we'll see what the marginal players are made of between now and May. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wednesday Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Holmowl said: But my point is, who is a better CM than Jones among our currently fit players? It depends on the shape/formation. Jones cant run therefore he needs legs around him. I would play Jones if I set up in a 4-2-3-1, he would one of the 2, the other would be Joey. If I was only playing one in a 4-1-4-1 then I wouldn't play Jones Same goes for the 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 that Jos goes with, having Jones holding with Reach and Clare more advanced won't work. Joey is more suited because he is more mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Holmowl said: I disagree. I think Jones is consistently ok. He has the occasional great game, the occasional poor game, but more often than not is a 6.5/7.5 out of 10. By contrast Joey is largely poor. The lad has time to improve, but no way is he a decent Championship CB right now. I also think Reach is far better utilized wide than central. It's too early to judge pessy imo... although he's not looking good. Reach is playing the Bryan Robson position because he has to...all over the park.. I'll back track a bit on Jones because on reflection.. he's been in a lot of games where we might have been overrun through bad team selection/tactics/necessity. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Agreed...but what a unique chance to shine....for some it won't come round again. It's an unlocked door..if you've got character and skill you should kick it open..... we'll see what the marginal players are made of between now and May. FFS. Indeed. The club is a right mess top to bottom and what we need more than anything now is for a few of these marginals to step up to the plate. If not we are looking at #squeakybumtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Rhubarb n Custard said: Indeed. The club is a right mess top to bottom and what we need more than anything now is for a few of these marginals to step up to the plate. If not we are looking at #squeakybumtime Yes and the likes of Palmer and a few other old hands need to guide some of the tyros.. take responsibility and dig in for the club and the supporters. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np pontefract Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, gypsyowl said: We need to stop all this foreign rounduns & go British next manager needs to be British & when he’s announced on swfc twitter I want the hashtag #brexit at the end WTID How about, Boris Johnson or Iain Duncan -Smith or Michael Gove or that other fruitcake, Nigel Farrage !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Sgt Wednesday said: The injuries have killed us and we can't ignore it, the rest of this season is about surviving, I am doubting our chances because we lack fighters, we lack aggression. But Starting next season with an injury free squad will put us in the top 6, lets not get too down. A fit 11 something like this will be competitive for a top 2 place: .....................Westwood Hunt.........Lees..........Van Aken..........Reach .......................Pelupessy Abdi.........Lee............Bannan............Forestieri ........................Hooper Thats a top 2 starting 11 Too improve it further we sign an established left back and a couple of pacey wide players. Thats 3 signings in the summer transfer window. Allow Nuhiu, Wallace and Loovens to leave, freeing up some decent wages. I am optimistic about next season if we can survive this season. I also fully believe I could manage this team to survival while preparing for a promotion push next season. A top 2 starting 11? A left winger playing at left back, a player at left wing that doesn't want to play there and a cm playing on the right wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Sgt Wednesday said: Westwood Hunt.........Lees..........Van Aken..........Reach .......................Pelupessy Abdi.........Lee............Bannan............Forestieri ........................Hooper Thats a top 2 starting 11 Oh no it isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wednesday Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, 83owl said: A top 2 starting 11? A left winger playing at left back, a player at left wing that doesn't want to play there and a cm playing on the right wing? Reach played left back many times under CC, he's probably our best left back currently, thats why I said we need to sign one. FF was at his best playing from the left and why he was considered a 10m pound player at that time. We don't have a right winger, thats why Abdi is there, if you notice I said we needed 2 wide players. That midfield 4 behind the striker would be fluid and they would all rotate, meaning Abdi wouldn't be an out and out winger. But thats going into tactics, still a good 11 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sgt Wednesday said: Reach played left back many times under CC, he's probably our best left back currently, thats why I said we need to sign one. FF was at his best playing from the left and why he was considered a 10m pound player at that time. We don't have a right winger, thats why Abdi is there, if you notice I said we needed 2 wide players. That midfield 4 behind the striker would be fluid and they would all rotate, meaning Abdi wouldn't be an out and out winger. But thats going into tactics, still a good 11 though. Oh you're serious... Pelupessy for one hasn't shown he's championship standard yet...and you've got him screening the back four in a auto promotion team? Get your napper down Sgt. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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