Guest thiscityisours Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I know it doesn't help the players but we need to show Milan from the start on Saturday that we want jones out, other managers have been sacked for less eg; megson & irvine JONES OUT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I know it doesn't help the players but we need to show Milan from the start on Saturday that we want jones out, other managers have been sacked for less eg; megson & irvine JONES OUT!!!! hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha ha hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Distraught! Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I know it doesn't help the players but we need to show Milan from the start on Saturday that we want jones out, other managers have been sacked for less eg; megson & irvine JONES OUT!!!! I guess that is really going to help the situation in what is likely to be a very difficult game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richswfc Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 yeah lets help the team out and manager and get on his back what a b**lend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 So if we score in the 1st minute, you'll boo ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm probably in the minority but I feel sacking DJ now would do more harm than good plus as history tells us countless managers over the last decade or so have struggled here which suggests perhaps other things have to change other than managers first, budgets, infrastructure etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm reliably informed amateur dramatics is a good way into acting , I would suggest the op does one and tries it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I know it doesn't help the players but we need to show Milan from the start on Saturday that we want jones out, other managers have been sacked for less eg; megson & irvine JONES OUT!!!! Please keep away on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Distraught! Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm probably in the minority but I feel sacking DJ now would do more harm than good plus as history tells us countless managers over the last decade or so have struggled here which suggests perhaps other things have to change other than managers first, budgets, infrastructure etc.? Agreed! In my opinion, the only thing that can stop the downward spiral we have suffered since the early 1990's is a chairman with the gonads to go out and recruit a top class manager or coach and then give them the resources to do the job. Anything else is just re-arranging deckchairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 yup and at the moment even though DJ un-inspires me i think he is the best we can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_wales_owls Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm probably in the minority but I feel sacking DJ now would do more harm than good plus as history tells us countless managers over the last decade or so have struggled here which suggests perhaps other things have to change other than managers first, budgets, infrastructure etc.? I dont want to cause offence but changing managers does sometimes bring success - Chelsea. Tons of money I know , but their record of a manager merry go round plus winning trophys. Their systems has changed as and when different managers have come in and gone. Since 2000 Ranieri Mouriniho Grant Scolari Wilkins Hiddink Anchelotti AVB Di Matteo Benitez Mouriniho again League Titles - 3 Europa Cup - 1 Champions League - 1 FA Cups - 4 League Cups - 2 Community Sheilds - 3 Youth Cups - 2 Its not about the consistancy of the manager, its the way the players adapt to the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Distraught! Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I dont want to cause offence but changing managers does sometimes bring success - Chelsea. Tons of money I know , but their record of a manager merry go round plus winning trophys. Their systems has changed as and when different managers have come in and gone. Since 2000 Ranieri Mouriniho Grant Scolari Wilkins Hiddink Anchelotti AVB Di Matteo Benitez Mouriniho again League Titles - 3 Europa Cup - 1 Champions League - 1 FA Cups - 4 League Cups - 2 Community Sheilds - 3 Youth Cups - 2 Its not about the consistancy of the manager, its the way the players adapt to the manager I would wager a bet that, if they had stuck with Mourinho the first time around like Man Utd. stuck with Ferguson and Arsenal stuck with Wenger, they would have won many more trophies by now. I bet Sir Alex felt a little bit relieved when Mourinho was shown the door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Do not know what to say, ridiculous thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 money = success in football, its a simple formula as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I just dont get it, do we think Milan is sat there thinking "I do really want to sack Dave but the fans love him so I can't?" If he was going to sack him, he would have done by now, but he wont if his intentions are genuinely to sell the club because cancelling Jones' contract would cost good money, as would replacing him with anybody better. All of that aside, shouting and chanting for a managers head at games just makes us all look a complete set of bellends, and is of no benefit to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 We've got to eventually let a manager run with the job and create something here. Fans are so quick to demand a change in management, owner, playing staff etc. But then moan theres no loyalty in football. Plenty were baying for jones head last season and he turned it around. In fact, it was only a mental run of results that kept us from being able to pull away from the drop zone earlier. That wont happen this season. As for comparing manager changes - chelsea is ridiculous. They attract the best managers each time and have loads of money to chuck at it. We dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I dont want to cause offence but changing managers does sometimes bring success - Chelsea. Tons of money I know , but their record of a manager merry go round plus winning trophys. Their systems has changed as and when different managers have come in and gone. Since 2000 Ranieri Mouriniho Grant Scolari Wilkins Hiddink Anchelotti AVB Di Matteo Benitez Mouriniho again League Titles - 3 Europa Cup - 1 Champions League - 1 FA Cups - 4 League Cups - 2 Community Sheilds - 3 Youth Cups - 2 Its not about the consistancy of the manager, its the way the players adapt to the manager No offence taken mate but as you've already said Chelsea had a lot of money to change Managers constantly and bring in the type of players we can only dream of. We are so far away from their set-up it's untrue. Totally agree with Distraught's view that when you select a Manager you have to not only totally believe in him, you have to provide the necessary support to give the manager the opportunity to do his job. If the Manager has the necessary backing and still fails to deliver then whether or not he stays in the job becomes a totally different situation. For me several Managers here at S6 have struggled in the role for a variety of reasons over the last decade or so and until one gets a fair crack of the whip from all directions of the club then they have precious little chance of delivering the success all Wednesday fans crave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Distraught! Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 As for comparing manager changes - chelsea is ridiculous. They attract the best managers each time and have loads of money to chuck at it. We don't It benefits no-one. I believe even Chelsea have suffered for it. Yes, they have gone on to win more trophies but I strongly believe that if they had held onto Mourinho the first time, they could have carried on dominating English football still further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 As for comparing manager changes - chelsea is ridiculous. They attract the best managers each time and have loads of money to chuck at it. We dont Can't remember which one it was, but they had to pay somebody about £6 million when they sacked him aswell. I'd imagine quite a few of those managers cost more than a decent championship striker in fees when they were sacked, people seem to act like money just isnt an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 whilst i stick up for DJ the main issue is his likeablity to be here for the long term, thats something i dont think he has and what would be my main consideration when considering change at the club. Think a SWFC manager needs to be charismatic and down to earth... who there is that fits that mould is another matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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