big fat ron 1963 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Pride and passionate hoofball won't get u anywhere in this league, do people not understand what DJ is trying to achieve? He's attempting to bring back the passing game to hillsborough... Hoofball Vs Passing - I know which I'd prefer.... gone are the day's where teams can bully/hoof other teams to one side in this division and above,we've only been away from this div for a couple of seasons and the standard of football has improved tremendously,most teams and countries seem to be taking the spanish style of play on board,they put this into practice about twenty years ago,not won much with this method eh,keep up the good work dj,i see a floodlight at the end of our bright tunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Which would have likely been similar to Antonio under Megson. He was even more influential than Marshall on our season. Maybe so but that wasn't the only thing that changed, our whole style of play and approach last season was so different under Jones. Would we have really gone unbeaten and won all those games under Megson, we will never know for sure but it seems doubtful based on how we were playing at the time. I agree with SiJ, it's pretty pointless debating this anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Perhaps we all need our memories erasing. Me included, so we can see things objectively. Recent history seems to be clouding everybody's judgement. Surely the dispassionate view would be that we're not playing very well, we're losing too many at home, our "star players" aren't performing, our signings this season have been "hit and miss" at best and we look likely relegation candidates? I think these kind of threads promote the myth that if you're willing to consider a change you must be a Megson "bummer'. I think this was the phrase you used earlier. I loved Megson, but if DJ was canned, I wouldn't want him back at this time. This has nothing to do with Megson, based on footballing performances we're not doing well enough under the current management. That has nothing to do with Megson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) No the performances have nothing to do with megson. But the perception of Jones by a vocal group of posters seems to be inversely proportional to how they perceived megson. Unfortunately I have a memory of the posts of some of the vociferous megson supporters on here.The very same ones are the biggest Jones critics. It's an observation that could go some way to explaining their undermining of him. Edited November 12, 2012 by Beholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 BIG RON ATKINSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ripley Owl Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 BIG RON ATKINSON Or Meg's ! UP THE OWLS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnbloodaxe Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) DJ is our manager and deserves all of our support. He is a good manager. GM's record is better as a manager excelled at getting teams to perform above their abilities in the premiership and has promotions from Championship under his belt. Generally teams struggle when they replace GM and revamp his squad. Minor overperforming teams in Prem don't play pretty football or they get hammered.... GM would never have been given the chance from MM. DJ should keep us up and hopefully develop our team further... GM won't be coming back to Hillsboro so forget it and move on. DJ IS OUR MANAGER ... WTID UTO.. Edited November 12, 2012 by Johnbloodaxe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 No the performances have nothing to do with megson. But the perception of Jones by a vocal group of posters seems to be inversely proportional to how they perceived megson. Unfortunately I have a memory of the posts of some of the vociferous megson supporters on here.The very same ones are the biggest Jones critics. It's an observation that could go some way to explaining their undermining of him. Who is undermining Jones? As far as I know, there hasn't been a single Jones Out chant at the games. If Jones, or more importantly Milan, feel that he is being undermined, they should have been here when Jewell was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Warren Hobhead Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I seem to recall saying that the players he had at the club played Hoof because they were'nt capable of anything else. The reason we wnt on an unbeaten run when Dave Jones came in was due to the style of quality football we played. It amuses me how every Megson supporter looks back at his time with rose tinted specs. I liked GM, I liked the way he brought some passion into the team but it was DJ and Terry Burton that gave them the belief that they could win playing football and not hoofball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I seem to recall saying that the players he had at the club played Hoof because they were'nt capable of anything else. The reason we wnt on an unbeaten run when Dave Jones came in was due to the style of quality football we played. It amuses me how every Megson supporter looks back at his time with rose tinted specs. I liked GM, I liked the way he brought some passion into the team but it was DJ and Terry Burton that gave them the belief that they could win playing football and not hoofball. We benefitted from the passion, fitness and reslience that Megson instilled. DJ put the cherry on the cake. We were promoted because of the good efforts of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 . put pride and passion back into us Kept it going with the same team of players that Megson failed to fully get the most out of and guided the team to promotion whereas couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Kept it going with the same team of players that Megson failed to fully get the most out of and guided the team to promotion whereas couldn't. Until we got the winger Megson had been after, since the departure of Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls66 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 It's actually quite cringey how some people are sucking Megson's wee pipe. If people honestly believe Megson was the main reason we got promoted then they are truly delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JC Saviour Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yes? I think Megson is better suited to achieving safety but not so good at setting up a squad to set its self apart from the pack when trying to achieve promotion. Think it's a valid point Just a genuine question, who do you think is better 'suited' at avoiding relegation . Neither, Mandaric will never work with Megson again. Jones had two good seasons with southampton in 97-98, been quite ordinary ever since. Most experienced manager in the championship? Yes, because he hasn't left it for 10 years. Granted Cardiff were a better squad than you've got now. As a team you should be feared on pitch. You're not, I've watched Dave Jones a lot over the years he never gets upset its almost like his heart's gone out the game. I don't think either are your answer I know which one I would have in a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Megson would get a lot more out of this current squad than Jones does. Megson wouldn´t have bought so many poor players in the first place. Bennett, Mike Jones, McGoldrick, Kasnik, Uchechi, Prutton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fedor Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Bennett, Mike Jones, McGoldrick, Kasnik, Uchechi, Prutton Are you sure they were all Megsons signings? Mcgoldrick wasn't bought. We benefitted from the passion, fitness and reslience that Megson instilled. DJ put the cherry on the cake. We were promoted because of the good efforts of both. THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Are you sure they were all Megsons signings? Mcgoldrick wasn't bought. Signings includes loans surely otherwise why are people moaning about Bothroyd? Would Megson allow a chairman to bring in players he didn't want? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fedor Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Megson would get a lot more out of this current squad than Jones does. Megson wouldn´t have bought so many poor players in the first place. That was what you responded too. Yes I do believe MM brought the 2 players in. Of the others Prutton did a job for us last season. Think Mike Jones could have given more of a chance. Not getting into an argument with you this time, but I will say this. When Megson fetched a billy big balls in on loan who thought he didn't have to work for the good of the team. He had the balls to get rid pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPQR-10 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 None of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 That was what you responded too. Yes I do believe MM brought the 2 players in. Of the others Prutton did a job for us last season. Think Mike Jones could have given more of a chance. Not getting into an argument with you this time, but I will say this. When Megson fetched a billy big balls in on loan who thought he didn't have to work for the good of the team. He had the balls to get rid pronto. Why make it an argument? You're right it says bought, I thought it said brought. Point is all managers sign crap players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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