Manor Owl Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Cannot remember whether the loans "emergency" or otherwise is still open. I was told a couple of days ago that Bothroyd is on 60k of which QPR pay 54k and we pay 6k. Before the debate about are we getting value, I have always been uncertain about the loans system especially last season. Danny Batth was a key player if not THE key player last season. Antonio was key in the final surge as was Treacy. Not sure about Ranger's contribution. But how much of their salaries did we pay? Is it fair, did we get promoted by using players who we were not paying. Are we comfortable with it. What goes round comes round. When it comes to beating the Scum then everything is fair but as a general rule is it right. Who was that prat from Bradford who scored twice against us for the scum at Hillsborough when we lost 3-1 could have cost us the League title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest intercity0wl Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Cannot remember whether the loans "emergency" or otherwise is still open. I was told a couple of days ago that Bothroyd is on 60k of which QPR pay 54k and we pay 6k. Before the debate about are we getting value, I have always been uncertain about the loans system especially last season. Danny Batth was a key player if not THE key player last season. Antonio was key in the final surge as was Treacy. Not sure about Ranger's contribution. But how much of their salaries did we pay? Is it fair, did we get promoted by using players who we were not paying. Are we comfortable with it. What goes round comes round. When it comes to beating the Scum then everything is fair but as a general rule is it right. Who was that prat from Bradford who scored twice against us for the scum at Hillsborough when we lost 3-1 could have cost us the League title. Wolves used it to bring in Jermain Pennant yesterday, so i would guess it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhound Owl Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) Closes 25th November Edited October 13, 2012 by Greyhound Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Williams Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 i heard this argument at the end of last season, all from pig fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chuckie4570 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Boothroyd is on 60k....!!! F**k me gently! Who in there right mind comes up with these figures. One things for sure we won't be signing him in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Just to throw it out there, would bringing in 1/2 loan players help? We're alread having problems gelling... but I'd take a quality centre back I suppose..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Boothroyd is on 60k....!!! F**k me gently! Who in there right mind comes up with these figures. One things for sure we won't be signing him in January I dunno know if he's on that or anything like it so not commenting on him specifically But football is absolutely mental - it's monopoly money and nobody picks up the tab - other than "the club" - and if the club get to the point where it can't pay its way then thats the only time anybody takes notice. Look at Pompey for an example. Until that point nearly all fans favour the lunatic profligacy that keeps most clubs on a financial knife edge. Football as a business is amoral - it's like a lesser version of the casino bankers - just chuck obscene amounts of money around and if it all goes wrong then so what - get out with pockets stuffed full of cash while the ship sails into the iceberg. That holds true for most clubs at all levels of the pyramid - just the numbers at the top end are incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 60k for an average journeyman striker is outrageous. The game has lost the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) I dunno know if he's on that or anything like it so not commenting on him specifically But football is absolutely mental - it's monopoly money and nobody picks up the tab - other than "the club" - and if the club get to the point where it can't pay its way then thats the only time anybody takes notice. Look at Pompey for an example. Until that point nearly all fans favour the lunatic profligacy that keeps most clubs on a financial knife edge. Football as a business is amoral - it's like a lesser version of the casino bankers - just chuck obscene amounts of money around and if it all goes wrong then so what - get out with pockets stuffed full of cash while the ship sails into the iceberg. That holds true for most clubs at all levels of the pyramid - just the numbers at the top end are incredible Good post. Rooney is reputed to be on 250k a month £12 mill a year. The only other sports I can think of who are anywhere near are the U.S. sports but the cash that can be generated to pay them are much bigger in comparison so are more affordable.Most American sports if not all have wage caps As was said on the radio the other day,when the money goes up in the Prem next season most of it will go in the players and their agents pockets and no doubt ticket prices will rise to pay for it. Edited October 13, 2012 by darra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) Good post. Rooney is reputed to be on 250k a month £12 mill a year. The only other sports I can think of who are anywhere near are the U.S. sports but the cash that can be generated to pay them are much bigger in comparison so are more affordable.Most American sports if not all have wage caps As was said on the radio the other day,when the money goes up in the Prem next season most of it will go in the players and their agents pockets and no doubt ticket prices will rise to pay for it. The difference that you're not factoring in is, licensing right to the Far East. A huge market. The US wage cap thing is bit of a misnomer, as it's legal for players to broker their equipment deals which can be huge. What I mean is Adidas make our shirts and the entire team wear them. In the states, an athlete signs with say Nike, they wear they gear exclusively. That isn't taken into consideration of the cap. Edited October 13, 2012 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 The difference that you're not factoring in is, licensing right to the Far East. A huge market. The US wage cap thing is bit of a misnomer, as it's legal for players to broker their equipment deals which can be huge. What I mean is Adidas make our shirts and the entire team wear them. In the states, an athlete signs with say Nike, they wear they gear exclusively. That isn't taken into consideration of the cap. True my main point though is that the American market is bigger and presumably generates more cash to pay the huge salaries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turreowl1981 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Good post. Rooney is reputed to be on 250k a month £12 mill a year. The only other sports I can think of who are anywhere near are the U.S. sports but the cash that can be generated to pay them are much bigger in comparison so are more affordable.Most American sports if not all have wage caps As was said on the radio the other day,when the money goes up in the Prem next season most of it will go in the players and their agents pockets and no doubt ticket prices will rise to pay for it. Surely more money in F1 & golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turreowl1981 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 There not US sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turreowl1981 Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 & boxing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 If Bothroyd is on £60,000.00 a week then his agent deserves a medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton_Swfc Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Still don't know how/why watford can be allowed to bring in 14 loanees from the same team (udinese). Reyt joke that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 The difference that you're not factoring in is, licensing right to the Far East. A huge market. And what you're not factoring in is that apart from a few hugely established clubs such as Man U, Real, Liverpool etc - the Far East market is a myth I remember years ago how Crystal Palace were gonna sell billions of shirts in China because they signed Fan Zhiyi and the eastern fans were gonna go mental and all support Palace etc Can't believe that despite all the facts since that people still buy into they shyte tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brammy (On The Move) Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Just to throw it out there, would bringing in 1/2 loan players help? We're alread having problems gelling... but I'd take a quality centre back I suppose..... I'm sure you have to bring in whole ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Triplo Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I think we will see some one in on loan on Thursday. Doesn't make sense to bring them in before that. Central defender at the very least. Would love DJ to make a u turn and for Batth to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Good post. Rooney is reputed to be on 250k a month £12 mill a year. The only other sports I can think of who are anywhere near are the U.S. sports but the cash that can be generated to pay them are much bigger in comparison so are more affordable.Most American sports if not all have wage caps As was said on the radio the other day,when the money goes up in the Prem next season most of it will go in the players and their agents pockets and no doubt ticket prices will rise to pay for it. I would imagine Rooney's on around 120K-150K a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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