TodwickOwl Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Don't really know what to say. Come here with a lot of experience, but today he looked well short of what's expected. Bad touches, no composure, beaten in the air many a time, choosing the wrong pass, poor positioning... Not a great game and he certainly didn't have a great game against Oldham last Monday either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 **** off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Give him time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Scapegoat. Can't be without one can we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckington owl Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 He'll settle down, I'm sure. ***Gardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincowl Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Wasn't that bad. Yes we defended badly collectively for the two goals but Gardner was generally okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls66 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Scapegoat. Can't be without one can we. To be fair mate, I think he's making more of an observation than writing him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Along with Buxton and Reda, he was poor. There is no scapegoat - why would there be a scapegoat today? We'll have to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I have to be honest, the defence was not playing as a unit today. Whether that's something that will take time or different players, only time will tell. Midfield was our strongest department, especially second half. Think we'll upgrade our strikeforce by one or 2 players in the next week or so and will be fine there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harry the Owl Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Gardener was terrible. Can't understand why Buxton is getting stick. He'll settle down we all know he's got the quality. Reda improved on his performance at Oldham where he was utterly sh!te. He settled in as the game went on and as we know saved the day. Give them time. Although im not sure on Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 As has been said in other threads someone needs to be the leader of he defence. That's the role Gardner should take and then hopefully we will be better. It takes time to gel and remember he is the new guy after rob jones and batth left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Good defender, well respected, England international. Just has a bit of bad luck with injuries, and hasn't yet had enough game time to establish a good understanding with his centre back partner Nothing to worry about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Owl Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Was not at the game today, but against Oldham I thought he was proper shakey. Was chatting to a palace fan last week tho and he reckons hes decent. Suppose well have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Rather give him at least 5 games minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kiltonowl Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 The fact is Gardner has never been that good, he's always been error prone throughut his entire career. You would hope stepping down a level would help but he is a worry, especially playing alongside Reda, they are not a great pairing, very similar in style and both laxidasical. Batth and Llera were a much better partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckington owl Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 The fact is Gardner has never been that good, he's always been error prone throughut his entire career. You would hope stepping down a level would help but he is a worry, especially playing alongside Reda, they are not a great pairing, very similar in style and both laxidasical. Batth and Llera were a much better partnership. Agree he's a bit injury prone, but other than that your opening sentence is utter tripe. Wasn't he Palace's player of the season last season? Also, Spurs obviously thought a lot of him to keep hold of him for so long. We've played 2 competitive games so far and already the lynch mob are out in force. Batth was no Vidic when he first came to us, give him time ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hoggyswfc111 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 i think reda didn't help him, with reda being out of poition half the game it drags him away from where he needs to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I'm pretty sure they should have had a penalty when he scissored Ward int the first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lawrie Maddens Hump Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 One game one performance. My God, some people must be proper perfect and ultra consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyBeevers Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Didn't play well at all- he lost Tyson for the first goal and should have dealt with a lot of balls that came into the box throughout the first half. However it was his debut, so i'm not overly concerned...he obviously has real pedigree and i'm sure he'll come good as he settles in over the coming weeks and months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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