EcclesallOwl Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I said no such thing! Reynolds however is still a good central defender who has been treated appallingly at this club. No he hasn't He was sh*te in every game he played for us barring one half against Peteborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDAZ Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I said no such thing! Reynolds however is still a good central defender who has been treated appallingly at this club. Crap. Reynolds may have had limited chances but when he did he was appalling most of the time. Birmingham & Dagenham away spring to mind straight away. When he came in he had a chance to show his ability and cement himself in the side because at the time we were woeful. But he didn't, he just added to the problems. Two different managers, who have completely different personalities didn't fancy him and wanted him gone. They see him in action on the training pitch day by day. I think that says it all. He wasn't treated badly, he just wasn't good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Right: Having thought about it more, the issue is that there are two separate issues. The contract, and the registration. The contract issue is cut and dried - EU backed employment law covers it and the players are free to decline the moving of their contracts hence why Rangers arent suing then for breach of contract. The registration is is a different matter. For one, it wont be directly referred to in any non football legislation, and can therefore be viewed as a grey area. Second, when we talk about a transfer of a player we are talking about the player moving teams, but in reality we are trading the players registration with the FA (and ultimately FIFA) to another team under agreed terms - mainly a transfer fee. Newcos stance is that as the registration of a player is transferrable, they believe that they players registrations were transferred when Charles Green purchased all Rangers heritable (legal word for transferable) assets. So the issue of the transferrence of the contracts is now immaterial - The SFA is not going to agree to the transferrence of the registrations as things stand, hence the players appeals to FIFA who adjudicate these kinds if disputes. So, where does this end? FIFA will ultimately have to rule in favour of the players that their registrations with Rangers were cancelled when the contract transfer was rejected (ie they became free agents) as we are dealing with employment law within a country that is part of the EU. Its just a question of how long it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Triplo Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Well worth waiting for is this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Right: Having thought about it more, the issue is that there are two separate issues. The contract, and the registration. The contract issue is cut and dried - EU backed employment law covers it and the players are free to decline the moving of their contracts hence why Rangers arent suing then for breach of contract. The registration is is a different matter. For one, it wont be directly referred to in any non football legislation, and can therefore be viewed as a grey area. Second, when we talk about a transfer of a player we are talking about the player moving teams, but in reality we are trading the players registration with the FA (and ultimately FIFA) to another team under agreed terms - mainly a transfer fee. Newcos stance is that as the registration of a player is transferrable, they believe that they players registrations were transferred when Charles Green purchased all Rangers heritable (legal word for transferable) assets. So the issue of the transferrence of the contracts is now immaterial - The SFA is not going to agree to the transferrence of the registrations as things stand, hence the players appeals to FIFA who adjudicate these kinds if disputes. So, where does this end? FIFA will ultimately have to rule in favour of the players that their registrations with Rangers were cancelled when the contract transfer was rejected (ie they became free agents) as we are dealing with employment law within a country that is part of the EU. Its just a question of how long it takes. I think that is a fair summary. I actually think the Bosman case remains the precedent. What we have to establish is that the termination of a contract is the same as the expiry. The fear for Football might be that if this gets tested at law, the current rules on young players registrations won't stand up and so clubs will once again be faced with losing their best youngsters for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 This is covered more than adequately in UK employment law - and Rangers or any football authority don't have a case - it will come under restraint of trade. If the current guise of Rangers is a different company to the company which the players signed then they are under no obligation to switch their contracts across - its very clear in employment law and any test case would show that quickly and easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn59 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 · Hidden by edinburghowl, August 12, 2012 - No reason given Hidden by edinburghowl, August 12, 2012 - No reason given Text from a Glasgow Rangers fan I know, after asking him his opionion on McCabe .......... " aye he's good but could'nt get a game in the Scottish 3rd, so had to go down a leauge" ! These jockonese lobbers are lucky to be playing in any league........................... even the Disney Division in a Mickey Mouse league Link to comment
steveger Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 · Hidden by edinburghowl, August 12, 2012 - No reason given Hidden by edinburghowl, August 12, 2012 - No reason given These jockonese lobbers are lucky to be playing in any league........................... even the Disney Division in a Mickey Mouse league have a lovely day.................................... Link to comment
Glenn59 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 have a lovely day.................................... I will...........................cos I'm ENGLISH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aj_owl Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I will...........................cos I'm ENGLISH!! In reality, thats more than likely, a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I will...........................cos I'm ENGLISH!! Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn59 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 · Hidden by edinburghowl, August 12, 2012 - No reason given Hidden by edinburghowl, August 12, 2012 - No reason given Jesus wept. he wasn't English....................so we'd be waiting for international clearence on those tears!!! Scotland.....the reason it exists is the stop Cumbria flooding good for you, im happy for ya einstein....................... am amazed a tw@t like you can spell Einstein Link to comment
Sonny Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Im only guessing but from a business point of view - Wolfmanjacks point about them going into liquidation and therefore not liable to any funds is about as arse over *** as it is possible to be. If the previous company was due to any compensation for the contract - then there is even MORE chance of it being upheld - as the administrators will be trying to secure every penny they can to compensate the creditors of the company which ceased to trade So how does TUPE fit into this business point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 · Hidden by edinburghowl, August 12, 2012 - No reason given Hidden by edinburghowl, August 12, 2012 - No reason given he wasn't English....................so we'd be waiting for international clearence on those tears!!! Scotland.....the reason it exists is the stop Cumbria flooding am amazed a tw@t like you can spell Einstein okay like i said im happy for you, now move along,nothing to see here........................ Link to comment
Taximark Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 okay like i said im happy for you, now move along,nothing to see here........................ You know the thread about Modding yesterday? this is a prime eg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn59 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 okay like i said im happy for you, now move along,nothing to see here........................ yep jog on fukwit............................ta ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) yep jog on fukwit............................ta ta Spelt f*ckwit wrong.. Edited August 12, 2012 by EcclesallOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bozman Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Isn't the bloke at Rangers him that was at the pigs cos wouldn't surprise me if he is only doing this cos it's the MASSIVE and bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 So how does TUPE fit into this business point of view? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUPE just read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 It's a disgrace. A club that didn't exist this time last year and a Football association that won't exist this time next year standing in the way of a young footballers career progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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