BarnOwl55 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I don't quite get it! Maybe that's my fault, but why all the all the heavy criticism of CC? Comments on here lately such as, 'useless', 'got to go', 'doesn't know what he's doing', 'poor tactician', 'only one game plan', 'clueless', 'wasting resources' etc just don't stack up to me. In the most competitive and unpredicatable league, certainly in England, if not Europe, (see Newcastle 0 v 2 Wolves), we are currently 1 win off the play-offs and 2 off the top two and only nine games in. We are playing some pretty decent football, creating hatsful of chances, must surely be top of the entertainment league in terms of excitement generated, and averaging over 25,000 home gates. I know we all want to 'p*** the league' and be top all season but let's temper our heady expectation with a touch of realism. I can understand and empathise with genuine frustration, but not blind and destructive knee-jerk criticism. Above all, let's just also be careful about what we wish for: to those who want a new face at the helm, please tell me who you would prefer to take over from CC. I would ask you to take a look at Derby/Pearson, Sunderland/Moyes, Leeds/Monk, Who do wish for who would be prepared to manage in the Championship? This is the best Wednesday back room set up and the best playing staff for years. For crying out loud let's just have patience and a little faith and cease all this senseless knocking eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 31 minutes ago, BarnOwl55 said: I don't quite get it! Maybe that's my fault, but why all the all the heavy criticism of CC? Comments on here lately such as, 'useless', 'got to go', 'doesn't know what he's doing', 'poor tactician', 'only one game plan', 'clueless', 'wasting resources' etc just don't stack up to me. In the most competitive and unpredicatable league, certainly in England, if not Europe, (see Newcastle 0 v 2 Wolves), we are currently 1 win off the play-offs and 2 off the top two and only nine games in. We are playing some pretty decent football, creating hatsful of chances, must surely be top of the entertainment league in terms of excitement generated, and averaging over 25,000 home gates. I know we all want to 'p*** the league' and be top all season but let's temper our heady expectation with a touch of realism. I can understand and empathise with genuine frustration, but not blind and destructive knee-jerk criticism. Above all, let's just also be careful about what we wish for: to those who want a new face at the helm, please tell me who you would prefer to take over from CC. I would ask you to take a look at Derby/Pearson, Sunderland/Moyes, Leeds/Monk, Who do wish for who would be prepared to manage in the Championship? This is the best Wednesday back room set up and the best playing staff for years. For crying out loud let's just have patience and a little faith and cease all this senseless knocking eh? Good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) Best manager since BigRon (and more loyal). Some people think we have gone poo poo just because our run of games this season have not been easy. For me, we have been punished in most games (Brentford, Bristol City, Birmingham and Notts Forest) against the run of play. Albeit we are not controlling games from the off like we did last year, the character and team spirit we are showing to get results has been brilliant. This is the sign of not only a great dressing room but also, great management. Edited September 25, 2016 by AwokenGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 What's Garry Monk done to deserve knocking like that!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgyowl Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Great post after reading some of the sheeeeite posted on here over the last 12 hours, we could always bring back yorarth, pleat, or alan Irvine sometimes i wounder what some of our fans have been smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 You'll not get away with common sense on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Its just fans reacting "After The Lord Mayors Show". We over acheived last season given we had a new owner, coach and players that didn't really have time to settle in and this year expectations were/are high. If we can get in the top 6 and be hovering around there all season the fans will settle. At the moment its a bit like Xmas when you've opened all your presents and just got socks and shaving cream - nice but not what you were hoping for. But then the wife turns up in that underwear you bought her and hey ho you realise Xmas isnt over ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Hardly heavy criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast of Boulogne Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 38 minutes ago, BarnOwl55 said: I don't quite get it! Maybe that's my fault, but why all the all the heavy criticism of CC? Comments on here lately such as, 'useless', 'got to go', 'doesn't know what he's doing', 'poor tactician', 'only one game plan', 'clueless', 'wasting resources' etc just don't stack up to me. In the most competitive and unpredicatable league, certainly in England, if not Europe, (see Newcastle 0 v 2 Wolves), we are currently 1 win off the play-offs and 2 off the top two and only nine games in. We are playing some pretty decent football, creating hatsful of chances, must surely be top of the entertainment league in terms of excitement generated, and averaging over 25,000 home gates. I know we all want to 'p*** the league' and be top all season but let's temper our heady expectation with a touch of realism. I can understand and empathise with genuine frustration, but not blind and destructive knee-jerk criticism. Above all, let's just also be careful about what we wish for: to those who want a new face at the helm, please tell me who you would prefer to take over from CC. I would ask you to take a look at Derby/Pearson, Sunderland/Moyes, Leeds/Monk, Who do wish for who would be prepared to manage in the Championship? This is the best Wednesday back room set up and the best playing staff for years. For crying out loud let's just have patience and a little faith and cease all this senseless knocking eh? your English is getting quite good Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caicos Owl Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, doubleo said: Its just fans reacting "After The Lord Mayors Show". We over acheived last season given we had a new owner, coach and players that didn't really have time to settle in and this year expectations were/are high. If we can get in the top 6 and be hovering around there all season the fans will settle. At the moment its a bit like Xmas when you've opened all your presents and just got socks and shaving cream - nice but not what you were hoping for. But then the wife turns up in that underwear you bought her and hey ho you realise Xmas isnt over ! Photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1867owl Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Our fans are, by and large, total w*nkers. This site is just an extension of that. All fans have an element of deluded kn*bheads, but we genuinely have more than most, no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkowl Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Great post. And correct me if I'm wrong are we still better off points wise than this time last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, 1867owl said: Our fans are, by and large, total w*nkers. This site is just an extension of that. All fans have an element of deluded kn*bheads, but we genuinely have more than most, no question. I would say, the minority! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Patience is the key. During the game especially. We don't have the electrifying pace in the side to hit teams on the counter. When a break is on the players k ow their limits. Time and again yesterday we broke only for it to slow down and for us to pass and probe for an opening. That's what we do. That's our way of playing. It works more often than not. We need to get on board with it and embrace it. We are a team that passes its way to goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnOwl55 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 25 minutes ago, Beast of Boulogne said: your English is getting quite good Carlos. That's for sure - well probabarbably for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 There are some on here who hate us being patient calling it 'tippy tappy' & think if we're not lumping it forward or in the box we are never going to score, ignoring that ALL the best and most successful teams play this 'tippy tappy'. They must explode when watching the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnOwl55 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, Norfolkowl said: Great post. And correct me if I'm wrong are we still better off points wise than this time last year You're not wrong, mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 20 minutes ago, 1867owl said: Our fans are, by and large, total w*nkers. This site is just an extension of that. All fans have an element of deluded kn*bheads, but we genuinely have more than most, no question. True, we do have a few idiots on here, just look at the above post for an example... Anyone else noticed how many relatively "new" posters there are in this thread ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Whilst I agree with the OP about some of the knee jerk reactions, it's not unreasonable for fans to question whether we've got our tactics right. Nobody on here would claim to know more about tactics than Carlos, that would be crazy, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's always right. For example, we forego a defensive midfielder, when probably 99% of professional football coaches around the world employ at least one. Is that a brave move by our Carlos, or simply foolhardy? Time will tell, I guess, but my point is, it wouldn't be unreasonable for supporters to query this. It's how they do it, that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) I'll take fans who post constructive criticism over a fan that says 'our fans are total w*nkers' anyday. Smells of blunt. Edited September 25, 2016 by Mr Farrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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