maidstoneowl Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, royalowlisback said: Because it is - not sure what Maidstone is on about? Talk about 400 new issue for the lower lep, due to concerns from other places, particularly due to the scale of the match and issues towards that end, this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 12 minutes ago, maidstoneowl said: Talk about 400 new issue for the lower lep, due to concerns from other places, particularly due to the scale of the match and issues towards that end, this season. No, I can't decipher that either lol. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder Spaniel Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Should the club adopt the ‘ better to ask for forgiveness than permission ‘ strategy when it comes to SAG and extra ticket sales? Seems to work for me with the pub from what I can remember! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danblakemore Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Expect Leppings lane Lower to be open today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S11 Owll Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 You’ve got to think that if the lower lep isn’t opened today then it ain’t happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 3 days since this sold out. It really shouldn’t be this difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 20 minutes ago, BIG D said: 3 days since this sold out. It really shouldn’t be this difficult. Which highlights the incompetence around our club. Copy and pasting previous matchday plans from one game to another does not wash, nor does a lack of stewarding that contributes to poor behaviour by some 'supporters'. There are still around 2k empty seats at present that can be used - what a farce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Are SAG used at another football club in the UK ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 7 minutes ago, owls-swfc said: Are SAG used at another football club in the UK ? Every club has something similar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niallzi Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 The club pleads and moans about queuing at the turnstiles but they've left this so late that the only option for West Lower tickets will probably be to collect at the turnstiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 1 minute ago, royalowlisback said: Every club has something similar. Ah yes, there the ones that allow a single line of stewards separating local rival supporters in an otherwise full stadium ... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 9 minutes ago, owls-swfc said: Are SAG used at another football club in the UK ? No SAG is Sheffield City Council. The national body is the Sports Ground Safety Authority. They do an annual inspection and issue a license for all regulated grounds. A local authority SAG safety certificate sets the permitted capacity together with the detailed terms and conditions with which the ground management must comply Edited April 25 by HarrowbyOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Owl Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) Re tickets at the turnstile. Wouldn’t most just use a smart phone image? Edited April 25 by Bedford Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 A Safety Advisory Group (SAG) exists to provide specialist advice to the local authority so it can discharge its functions under the Safety of Sports Grounds Act 1975 (1975 Act) and / or Fire Safety and Safety of Places of Sport Act 1987 . In practice, it also provides the vital forum within which the local authority and other agencies may develop a corporate approach to safety at the sports grounds concerned, while each exercising its own responsibilities. Although the SAG is not constituted to advise the ground management on sports ground safety, the management may nevertheless frequently benefit from the expertise within the SAG. However, it cannot thereby transfer its responsibility for safety to the SAG or any of its members. Moreover, it is the local authority, not the SAG, that issues the safety certificate, and which is responsible for advising and assisting the certificate holder where necessary. Membership In addition to appropriate members of local authority staff, the SAG should include representatives of the following: Local authority, including building control, highways, environmental health and emergency planning The sports ground being discussed – the certificate holder, safety officer and any other relevant representative as necessary, such as medical provider Police Fire service Medical / ambulance service Fan representative The SGSA is not a formal member of a SAG. However our Inspectors can attend SAG meetings of football grounds within its regulatory oversight as independent advisers who are present at the invitation of the local authority. It will be for the SAG chair to invite any other representative or group which may be relevant for issues at the time. Agenda and minutes An agenda should be developed ahead of the meeting. This may include standing items including, but not limited to: Ground updates, such as events, alterations, installations, development work, etc Stewarding Medical arrangements Incidents Changes to the Operations Manual Inspection reports New or revised guidance Security arrangements Safety Certificate Zone Ex In addition, there may be set items for each organisation represented at the meeting to give an update or raise any current issues or questions. Following a meeting, minutes should be produced and circulated to the group. The production of accurate minutes of the SAG meetings provides a vital audit trail and ensures that key discussions are recorded and actions are reviewed. In addition, it is good practice to maintain an action log separate to the minutes, which allows each individual action to be followed through to completion and progress updates to be added. It is also essential to record why the ground management has proposed, the SAG has supported, and / or the local authority has accepted any deviations from the recommendations of the Green Guide when setting the capacity of the sports ground. The onus will be on the local authority to demonstrate that it has acted reasonably. Similarly, the minutes should record the reasons for any amendments to the terms and conditions in the safety certificate. In the absence of such information, the local authority could be vulnerable to an appeal by the certificate holder. Such minutes do not themselves constitute the amendment to the safety certificate. The local authority must formally issue a written amendment. SAG minutes, along with any papers presented at the meeting, would be subject to a Freedom of Information (FoI) request. The Information Commissioner’s Office provides full details on the responsibilities of public bodies in relation to FoI. Guide to Safety Certification Our Guide to Safety Certification contains full information on SAG meetings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLS1867OWLS Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 My mate was offered 4 tickets for twice the face value last night He asked how the said person got the tickets being a WBA fan and response was bought them from the ticket office OVER THE PHONE !!!!!!! Yeah its a sell out BUT if we have NON SWFC fans bulk buying tickets to flog and the club among others operates strict purchase conditions how does this happen. I have a load of mates who have had to give up season tickets over past couple of years due to renewal costs and family commitments (KIDS). c I also had same mates who missed Wembley due to tickets and at the time we had NON SWFC fans using our ticket allocations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grants Left Boot Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Not showing sold out anymore, just last tickets. When you click on buy tickets, currently takes you to the seat map and everything sold, so my guess is that they are loading the seats and getting ready to press go at any time for the lower west. So anyone who wants a ticket, be ready, get the seat map loaded and keep pressing F5 every 30 seconds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 6 minutes ago, Grants Left Boot said: Not showing sold out anymore, just last tickets. When you click on buy tickets, currently takes you to the seat map and everything sold, so my guess is that they are loading the seats and getting ready to press go at any time for the lower west. So anyone who wants a ticket, be ready, get the seat map loaded and keep pressing F5 every 30 seconds. Nice spot. Maybe a few more released in AA in the South, top of Block T on the North and all those random seats that appeared a couple of days before the Stoke game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonisthorpeOwl Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, Grants Left Boot said: Not showing sold out anymore, just last tickets. When you click on buy tickets, currently takes you to the seat map and everything sold, so my guess is that they are loading the seats and getting ready to press go at any time for the lower west. So anyone who wants a ticket, be ready, get the seat map loaded and keep pressing F5 every 30 seconds. Loading the seats? Let’s hope it’s not one at a time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Most areas say 'no available seats' - the leppings lower say 'area locked' - along with other random sections of the ground - the 'area locked' is where I expect the tickets to be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlerton Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 38 minutes ago, niallzi said: The club pleads and moans about queuing at the turnstiles but they've left this so late that the only option for West Lower tickets will probably be to collect at the turnstiles. Tickets are either digital or print at home when buying online aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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