pazowl55 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: You can only go by a managers record Results are results Who is it you would like as our next manager.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new zealand owl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Results are results Facts is facts What is your opinion on eddie howe? Last 5 seasons of roughly just over a point a game at bournemouth, including a relegation. Looking at those pure 'stats' no one should touch howe with a barge pole. I reckon most championship chairmen would think differently if they are looking for a change. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, Holmowl said: I know who this is but I won’t spoil your thread. Now I know who he is, and the clubs involved, yes I would. Why do the clubs involved matter? Would you sign Jordan Rhodes? He's been playing in a side that's really struggling? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, pazowl55 said: Who is it you would like as our next manager.? Kevin Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, steveraper said: Depends on the team, and the situation the team is in. It's the managers job to get them out of that situation And it's the managers responsibility for leaving clubs IN that position Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elated owl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 That is Nigel Pearsons record because i was looking at the same information last night. personally, i would go for Paul Cook. 43.1% managerial record but doesn't reflect the last few jobs - including nearly 42% at Wigan. always talks well of us - i think it'd be a more progressive appointment. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: You can only go by a managers record Results are results I can do by what I like, and I tend to find statistics with context are better to use, I don't even know what manager this is referring too and haven't decided who I'd even want yet. From a purely academic side, statistics without context are pointless and can be used to reach incorrect conclusions. The value comes in pairing statistics with more qualitative data and analysing and comparing using that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 If results are results we should get a non league manager with the best record. Easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Why do the clubs involved matter? Would you sign Jordan Rhodes? He's been playing in a side that's really struggling? I’d sign Rhodes ahead of Marriott, Paterson and Kachunga. As far as the manager is concerned, yes, the clubs matter a lot. Moyes’ points record at West Ham is worse than his record at Man U, but where has he been more “successful”? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, elated owl said: That is Nigel Pearsons record because i was looking at the same information last night. personally, i would go for Paul Cook. 43.1% managerial record but doesn't reflect the last few jobs - including nearly 42% at Wigan. always talks well of us - i think it'd be a more progressive appointment. Boooo You spoiled a good thread. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) He took over a dead and buried Watford side who were bottom of the league in December with 1 win in 15 and 7 points adrift. He left them 3 points ahead of the relegation zone before being sacked by the notoriously trigger happy Watford owners. In that time he averaged 1.18 PPG. Over a 38 game period in the PL that equates too 44 points which would have had him finish 13th. But somehow that’s being portrayed as a “poor job” Edited November 10, 2020 by 0114 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, deano said: If results are results we should get a non league manager with the best record. Easy. That's what those shouting for The Cowleys last time and calling for Paul Cook this time are saying Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, steveraper said: And he got them out of the situation of being bottom of the Prem. He left them in a much better position than he found them, so yes, based on those stats AND THE CONTEXT, he did a great job. Why did he get sacked then? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 You need a personality to manage this club . If whoevers stats they are has one ,get em in. 2 Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, steveraper said: Ask the Watford owners. Their decision relegated Watford, so their judgement is a bit suspect, eh? Why did all the other clubs sack him then? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: That's what those shouting for The Cowleys last time and calling for Paul Cook this time are saying So where do you draw the line, a semi professional manager who wins 90% of his games would not be a suitable candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Wouldn't touch Pearson in a million years. Poor record and a nasty piece of work to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 David Wagner appears a popular choice on here. Huddersfield PPG 1.2 Shalke PPG 1.2 Best avoid him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 So let's summarise.. Fans were screaming for The Cowleys to come because of their Points Per Game record and results - We didn't take them on - they went to Huddersfield and imploded in failure Fans are screaming for Paul Cook because of his Points Per Game record and results - (even though he's never finished above mid-table in the championship) Fans were absolutely LIVID at Garry Monk and screaming for Chansiri to get rid of him due to his points per game record and results I put the points per game and results record of a managers last three games that show them to be way way WAYYYYYYY worse than the above three but that's the one you want because of CONTEXT? AYE ALREYT THEN GET DA FOOOOOOOK OUTTA HERE 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, A12owl said: I really want to know who it is so that I can say that I wouldn't employ him. Anagram - enlarge in ops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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