Guest Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, cookeh said: ok, so.. #1 is possible to play well and not score goals.. even as a striker. as numerous people have said, fletch's all round play was good. he made space, bought people into play and had a good game. to me, to reduce all strikers to "but did he score?" is a bit silly a juvenile as a view of football. it's simply not that black and white. #2 the demand that he put away the chances just ignores the context. he wasn't supposed to start. Nuhiu got himself suspended and joao had a knock.. so we had to turn to fletch without him having had enough game time to get sharp. turns out he needs another game or two to find his edge, and that's absolutely no surprise to anyone who is paying attention to the context surrounding him playing. #3 in your post just before the quoted one you say it was bizarre that anyone clapped him. really? a player who isn't fit comes in, clearly puts a shift in, tries his best, is gutted to have missed chances.. undoubtedly tried his best and did his best on the day.. and you're against clapping him. 10/10 for being a fan. so there ya go. that's why in my opinion you earned a neg. feel free to follow up and maybe earn a +.. who knows. So thats ok then. Lets all put an arm around Stevie boy because he s probably gutted he missed 3 gilt edge chances. Then all is forgiven. If he isn't fit then he shouldn't have played or is that his get out of jail card. No one is questioning his work ethics just that by your account that this fantastic player is allowed to miss 3 yes 3 gilt edge chances. Can't wait for Nuhiu to come back in. Neg away matey. You know where the button is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, james o connor said: Yeh right ! His mediocre goals return throughout his career suggests otherwise . 30 grand a week should be burying them Wages v ability, what a cop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, CLswfc said: If he isn't fit then he shouldn't have played err.. agreed. But who would you have played instead? rhodes is busy scoring for norwich. winnall is injured. joao's injured. Hooper's injured. nuhiu's suspended. so.. you'd pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, CLswfc said: Nuhiu was given the opportunity to stake a claim as a starter in that side and took it with both hands. The stats back this up 100%., and he as caarfried on where he left off last season. Enough said. Not too fussed about what he did under CC its what he as been doing under the currennt manager what really counts JL as given the yound uns more confidence in blooding these who all in all have taken their chances very well. The same can be said about Joao. One or two on here dont like the fact Nuhiu is the main striker at the club at this present time. Christ, if Nuhiu had missed those chances that fell to Fletcher there would have been a total meltdown on here. The problem with Fletcher and quite possibly the same with Hooper, its the inevitability of them being injured at some point or points during the season. Never disputed what you're saying. I've said Nuhiu should continue up until a point where it stops happening or situations/circumstances change. Of course you wouldnt drop him now. I just said that Fletcher has played 1 game in 9+ months so deserves some leeway r.e. his missed chances. He will have to fight for his place in the starting XI when he gets sub appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, cookeh said: err.. agreed. But who would you have played instead? rhodes is busy scoring for norwich. winnall is injured. joao's injured. Hooper's injured. nuhiu's suspended. so.. you'd pick? FF and re shuffle the midfield. Not hard is it. Or what about the young lad who you would pick against Sunderland. So what now..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Almost forgot, Matias who you would use as a striker against Sunderland. Thats three. So you would still have an half fit striker playing then. So what now............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 On 11/08/2018 at 20:56, Watson said: Missed two golden opportunities and got applauded off. Bizzare You can’t be that stupid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: You can’t be that stupid Never doubt my ability to be stupid or yours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 His performance on Saturday had everything but a goal. Excellent hold up play and battling in the air, but he had to bury at least one of the chances he got. It's probably worth persisting with him in the team if he can carry on leading the line like that though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Didn't go as I was really busy rescuing two 13 week old ferret kits Saturday , but from what I've heard etc... The best word to describe fletcher sounds like "Rusty", hopefully he'll manage a run of games and get some form and goals again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 15 hours ago, CLswfc said: Almost forgot, Matias who you would use as a striker against Sunderland. Thats three. So you would still have an half fit striker playing then. So what now............. To your points.. if you can call them that.. Borukov is fine to get a run in a cup game against a lower league club, for me. Would I start him against an ex-prem team that we could do with 3 points from? No. Wouldn't even enter my head to do so. the only reason he'd get a run against Sunderland would be because of the injury situation with our strikers and the need to protect Fletch a bit until he's back 100%. That you suggest using Borukov against Hull is frankly a bit silly. As for Matias.. I don't see him and a center forward. can he play wide of a front 3? yes. but we played 2 up top against Hull, and for me he can't do that well enough. So get over your childish 'what now's and try actually thinking things thru like a grown up. ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, cookeh said: To your points.. if you can call them that.. Borukov is fine to get a run in a cup game against a lower league club, for me. Would I start him against an ex-prem team that we could do with 3 points from? No. Wouldn't even enter my head to do so. the only reason he'd get a run against Sunderland would be because of the injury situation with our strikers and the need to protect Fletch a bit until he's back 100%. That you suggest using Borukov against Hull is frankly a bit silly. As for Matias.. I don't see him and a center forward. can he play wide of a front 3? yes. but we played 2 up top against Hull, and for me he can't do that well enough. So get over your childish 'what now's and try actually thinking things thru like a grown up. ta. "We play for points" in the carabao cup now...............................awesome. Edited August 14, 2018 by DELUDED OWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 5 hours ago, DELUDED OWL said: "We play for points" in the carabao cup now...............................awesome. read it again... "Borukov is fine to get a run in a cup game against a lower league club, for me. Would I start him against an ex-prem team that we could do with 3 points from? No " the "ex-prem team we could do with 3 points from" i was referring to was hull. sunderland are the lower league club in the cup.. no point to be gained there. hull are the team we played in the league.. so yes.. points involved. always helps to read rather than just try and be smug. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, cookeh said: read it again... "Borukov is fine to get a run in a cup game against a lower league club, for me. Would I start him against an ex-prem team that we could do with 3 points from? No " the "ex-prem team we could do with 3 points from" i was referring to was hull. sunderland are the lower league club in the cup.. no point to be gained there. hull are the team we played in the league.. so yes.. points involved. always helps to read rather than just try and be smug. Oh god, joviality my man..... Christ its like wading thru waves of cack to get a laugh/smile on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, DELUDED OWL said: Oh god, joviality my man..... Christ its like wading thru waves of cack to get a laugh/smile on here. well try making "jokes" that make at least a half bit of sense and you might be more successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cookeh said: well try making "jokes" that make at least a half bit of sense and you might be more successful. Was meant to be "humerous" not a joke. Wow, reckon i need to just go with the flow then, just be on a massive downer with everything. Edited August 14, 2018 by DELUDED OWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 8 hours ago, cookeh said: To your points.. if you can call them that.. Borukov is fine to get a run in a cup game against a lower league club, for me. Would I start him against an ex-prem team that we could do with 3 points from? No. Wouldn't even enter my head to do so. the only reason he'd get a run against Sunderland would be because of the injury situation with our strikers and the need to protect Fletch a bit until he's back 100%. That you suggest using Borukov against Hull is frankly a bit silly. As for Matias.. I don't see him and a center forward. can he play wide of a front 3? yes. but we played 2 up top against Hull, and for me he can't do that well enough. So get over your childish 'what now's and try actually thinking things thru like a grown up. ta. You really hate being shot down . Are you an only child by any chance. It was you who put these players up front not me then you shoot yourself in the foot by saying they are not really forwards or they wouldnt be any good against ex premiership sides. So whats Sunddsrland then. Classic pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, CLswfc said: You really hate being shot down . Are you an only child by any chance. It was you who put these players up front not me then you shoot yourself in the foot by saying they are not really forwards or they wouldnt be any good against ex premiership sides. So whats Sunddsrland then. Classic pal. trolling to the max. good good. just what our fanbase needs more of. you clearly didn't understand what i wrote. good on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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