Past Member Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, OwlofOliveGrove said: I almost feel bad for FF coming back to the immense pressure of everyone thinking he is the one thing that will turn our season. He's a cracking player but he has no say on the garbage style of play. He helped us to play offs last season despite CCs dire tactics. FF is the one player who sometimes ignores CCs instructions. Because he has a will to win. If only more players did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, zzmdu said: yep our top goalscorer (last 2 seasons) returning will make us score less. HolmOwlnomics. :) Answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Im not expecting FF to come back and start tearing up trees. Carlos is still not sure where to play him. Don't pin your hopes on him this season folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 4 hours ago, jfr142 said: He might not even see this season. It will be too late anyway. think it already is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Can anybody argue that any of the forwards are playing well enough to say that a 100% fit FF should not be given a go. The only person who got behind the back four today was Palmer a couple of times. I acknowledge Hooper's abilities and his strengths but for all his ability, and until the last couple of games he has probably been our best player, these strengths are that he plays with his back to goal and generally passes the ball sideways or back. Basically he keeps possession in a very skilful way but has stopped getting in the box. We have too many players who can only contribute if the team is playing well, none that can create from nothing. The other strikers are just work horses, who happen to be taller than FF. We are absolutely desperate for a forward who will try and turn, take a centre half on and at least frighten the defence a little bit. I would prefer 433 with FF on the left but whatever we play we need his flair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Holmowl said: Answer the question. What question? The answer is that we do better with FF in the team. I'll try & summarize, again, but you have a blind spot with regards to FF (caused by your weird obsession with Hooper) Ok here goes. FF played in a mixture of upfront/left mid positions for the last 2 seasons. He finished top scorer, SWFC finished in the play offs, both season's. This season without FF we're mid table, struggling to score goals. Has the penny dropped? We VERY much appear to be missing FF. Your repeated claims/boasts that we'd pesh the league with Hooper & Fletcher up front, have fallen flat on their face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 14 hours ago, FreshOwl said: Meh, I’ve given up with FF, as I have most of the players even when he becomes fit CC won’t start him and use as an impact sub Wont start him .when he fit he plays another arm chair supporter who talks sht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I’m genuinely shocked that some on here are saying Ff isn’t the answer and they want him gone in January! Quite unbelievable - he walks into this team once fit. We miss his spark massively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 He's very good, but won't be match fit until Easter so don't hold your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 He’s back in January apparently but whether that’s early or late who knows ! At this point he should be walking into the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robdylan Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 21 hours ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: Save us from this poo . I've been eagerly awaiting his return for a while. But then it dawned on me that Carlos will probably just play him up front when he returns, with the same midfield behind him, with the same dour tactics etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, Robdylan said: I've been eagerly awaiting his return for a while. But then it dawned on me that Carlos will probably just play him up front when he returns, with the same midfield behind him, with the same dour tactics etc. But the problem is, Carlos is going nowhere. DC won't sack him. That's the point that some seem to be missing. We're playing this way and that's it. Ask yourself this....would you rather we play this way with or without a game changer like Forestieri? We need him. Desperately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 minute ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: But the problem is, Carlos is going nowhere. DC won't sack him. That's the point that some seem to be missing. We're playing this way and that's it. Ask yourself this....would you rather we play this way with or without a game changer like Forestieri? We need him. Desperately. If the question is would I rather play this way with FF up front, it's an easy one....without. We stop scoring. If the question is woukd I rather play this way with FF wide, its just as easy.....with. You make it sound like he fits anywhere in the team, and he so clearly doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob1601 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 3-5-2 with FF behind a front two could help us with the players we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 hours ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said: He’s back in January apparently but whether that’s early or late who knows ! At this point he should be walking into the team! Carlos said recently that it could be a nine month injury, in which case he misses the season, but that he feels it could be January, though it was nothing more than a feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robdylan Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: But the problem is, Carlos is going nowhere. DC won't sack him. That's the point that some seem to be missing. We're playing this way and that's it. Ask yourself this....would you rather we play this way with or without a game changer like Forestieri? We need him. Desperately. I agree. We do need him. But I can't get excited, knowing that he'll probably be played up front. If I knew that Carlos may play Fernando wide, or in the hole, or as a 4-3-3, then I'd feel different. But he won't. I've had enough now. I'll always like Carlos, but it's clear that we can't progress any further with him at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 There was pictures of him on a running machine on social media about a month ago so hopefully its going to be sooner rather than later. My god do we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Holmowl said: If the question is would I rather play this way with FF up front, it's an easy one....without. We stop scoring. If the question is woukd I rather play this way with FF wide, its just as easy.....with. You make it sound like he fits anywhere in the team, and he so clearly doesn't. We're playing without ff as a forward as a left winger, as a centre half. It isn't working without FF. How hard us it for you to comprehend? The only proof that we're not missing ff; is progression without him. You constant bleating mean nothing, to anyone but yourself. You looking a bit desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Well if my memory serves, so far this season we’ve had Get rid of Fessi Get rid of Carlos Get rid of Rhodes Get rid of Reach Get rid of Hirst Get rid of Dawson Get rid of Nuhiu I’m certain that I’ve just scratched the ‘get rid of’ surface, Fessi could just be our saving grace, why would some posters wish to get rid of him just because he’s a bell end, George Best wouldn’t have lasted long with us would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, zzmdu said: We're playing without ff as a forward as a left winger, as a centre half. It isn't working without FF. How hard us it for you to comprehend? The only proof that we're not missing ff; is progression without him. You constant bleating mean nothing, to anyone but yourself. You looking a bit desperate. If fit tomorrow, where would YOU play him v Hull? Bearing in mind, we know it's 442. It always is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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