Fibonacci91 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 If FF will be playing out wide on the left which hopefully he will be, will Kieran Lee be playing on the right in a 4-4-2 or will he play in a 3 with Hutch and BB and 1 striker. I'm not even conteplmating the thought of Bannan on the wing/bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike84 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Carlos has already said that we won't be looking at a different formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, mike84 said: Carlos has already said that we won't be looking at a different formation. Surely he will stumble across the realisation we have to play all 3 of Hutch, Lee & Bannan and he has already realised FF is best on the wing. Therefore by default we have to play 1 striker. My only conclusions for a 4-4-2 is Kieran Lee right mid. Or the 3 midfielders in the centre with FF at the tip of a diomond behind 2 strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: Surely he will stumble across the realisation we have to play all 3 of Hutch, Lee & Bannan and he has already realised FF is best on the wing. Therefore by default we have to play 1 striker. My only conclusions for a 4-4-2 is Kieran Lee right mid. Or the 3 midfielders in the centre with FF at the tip of a diomond behind 2 strikers. Let carlos sort it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhgate Owl Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Westwood hunt lees ? Reach Boyd hutch lee ff Rhodes Hooper Edited July 20, 2017 by Greenhgate Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: Let carlos sort it yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, Greenhgate Owl said: Westwood hunt lees ? Pudil Boyd hutch lee ff Rhodes Hooper No Bannan? Personally think Bannan is brilliant. Im from Manchester so watched a lot of away games of tele last year with mates who arnt wednesdayites. They always seemed to think Bannan looked our best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: No Bannan? Personally think Bannan is brilliant. Im from Manchester so watched a lot of away games of tele last year with mates who arnt wednesdayites. They always seemed to think Bannan looked our best player. Your opinion is automatically invalid if you're from Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 4-4-2 The manager has said so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike84 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: Surely he will stumble across the realisation we have to play all 3 of Hutch, Lee & Bannan and he has already realised FF is best on the wing. Therefore by default we have to play 1 striker. My only conclusions for a 4-4-2 is Kieran Lee right mid. Or the 3 midfielders in the centre with FF at the tip of a diomond behind 2 strikers. We won't play with Lee, Bannan & Hutch in midfield next season. My guess is FF/Reach Abdi Lee Wallace/Boyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, kingsidney said: Your opinion is automatically invalid if you're from Manchester. I only watch away games on TV I also have a season ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I'm fairly sure it'll be: Nando/Reach - Bannan - Lee/Abdi/Jones - Boyd It would have been Nando nailed on for the left, but Reach is making a case in preseason. Bannan, I don't think Carlos thinks is droppable from the side. While some on here complain about him, he does retain possession well and his distribution is excellent. There's no one else in the side who can spread play like he does. He doesn't get a lot of assists but he is involved in the build up of soo many goals for us. Lee and Abdi are similar in that they both play slightly ahead of center mid and link to the forwards. I don't think we're likely to see them together in the midfield very often, if ever, as a result. Jones is still a useful guy to have if we're playing more of a counterattacking style for a particular game. So I think they'll rotate depending on the requirement and Abdi will fight Lee for the 'normal' starting spot. Boyd is a sure thing to start on the right for 90% of games. His workrate is 2nd to none and while he's not as spectacular as Wallace can be, he's a lot more consistent. Teams will hate playing against him at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarvy Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 34 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: No Bannan? Personally think Bannan is brilliant. Im from Manchester so watched a lot of away games of tele last year with mates who arnt wednesdayites. They always seemed to think Bannan looked our best player. I agree, Bannan is our best player. Not because he's amazingly gifted in terms of shooting or skill, but he orchestrates our attack from the centre. Almost every goal goes through him switching the ball from side to side or whipping crosses in to great places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, cookeh said: I'm fairly sure it'll be: Nando/Reach - Bannan - Lee/Abdi/Jones - Boyd It would have been Nando nailed on for the left, but Reach is making a case in preseason. Bannan, I don't think Carlos thinks is droppable from the side. While some on here complain about him, he does retain possession well and his distribution is excellent. There's no one else in the side who can spread play like he does. He doesn't get a lot of assists but he is involved in the build up of soo many goals for us. Lee and Abdi are similar in that they both play slightly ahead of center mid and link to the forwards. I don't think we're likely to see them together in the midfield very often, if ever, as a result. Jones is still a useful guy to have if we're playing more of a counterattacking style for a particular game. So I think they'll rotate depending on the requirement and Abdi will fight Lee for the 'normal' starting spot. Boyd is a sure thing to start on the right for 90% of games. His workrate is 2nd to none and while he's not as spectacular as Wallace can be, he's a lot more consistent. Teams will hate playing against him at this level. You backing Hutch for centre back then. I mean Einsteins definition of insanty is doing the same things over and over again and expecting differant results. Remember how badly we were doing last season before restoring Hutch to the midfield? Edited July 20, 2017 by Fibonacci91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 32 minutes ago, mike84 said: We won't play with Lee, Bannan & Hutch in midfield next season. My guess is FF/Reach Abdi Lee Wallace/Boyd Carlos will play Jones in a midfield two before Abdi in my opinion. And even he still behind Lee, Bannan and Hutchinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: You backing Hutch for centre back then. I mean Einsteins definition of insanty is doing the same things over and over again and expecting differant results. Remember how badly we were doing last season before restoring Hutch to the midfield? We had a great run for 2 months (end of august to end of october) with him at centerback.. 8 games, 6 wins, no losses. the only 2 games we lost in that period were when he was suspended. Similarly our 6 game win streak at the end was without him even in the side. I like him a lot, but I don't think Hutch is vital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 38 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: You backing Hutch for centre back then. I mean Einsteins definition of insanty is doing the same things over and over again and expecting differant results. Remember how badly we were doing last season before restoring Hutch to the midfield? Was it really switching Hutch to CM that improved us, or was it getting rid of that awful "tactic" of playing with one winger and 3 CMs? Later in the season when Hutch was out, we enjoyed great success because we played largely a balanced side. For me he should play CB, or not play. Unless Carlos really wants a super-tightened approach in the odd game such as Villa or Boro away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, cookeh said: We had a great run for 2 months (end of august to end of october) with him at centerback.. 8 games, 6 wins, no losses. the only 2 games we lost in that period were when he was suspended. Similarly our 6 game win streak at the end was without him even in the side. I like him a lot, but I don't think Hutch is vital. Hutchinson is a very good player both at centre back and defensive midfielder. Problem is he and Bannan are to similar in the position they take up deep to play effectively together. (Holds breath now and waits for stats that prove me wrong.) Edited July 20, 2017 by pazowl55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shezza Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 hours ago, mike84 said: Carlos has already said that we won't be looking at a different formation. What he said was he isn't going to change from a back four. There's a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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