kingsidney Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 8 hours ago, HarryJ said: Really can't believe we are having this poll. I appreciate CC may have some faults but they pale into insignificance compared to all the managers that have gone before him, certainly back to Atkinson. He has achieved consistently since he arrived and built up a competitive team that can adapt to different situations and play with a confidence. Not since the early 90s have we seen this. The one thing we DON'T do is play with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 3 hours ago, the third man said: wasn't hutch injured in the semi last year? sure it was Lopez that played, and Hutch came back in the final because he was fit again, another example of changing a team just because someone was fit and had to play Hutch came on at half time in the away leg after my nerves had been shot in the first half. If he hadn't we might not have made Wembley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 In the middle of all this speculation I've heard there's a manager who 2 years running narrowly missed out in the play offs, won 6 in a row in the run in, outplayed Arsenal, beat Newcastle home and away and finished 4th in the league with half a team injured. Should we be in for this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumbullowl Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I think if CC gets replaced, the new guy will be someone we've never heard of. Like CC was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, oldishowl said: Hutch came on at half time in the away leg after my nerves had been shot in the first half. If he hadn't we might not have made Wembley! Cheers, but I think he was talking about the home leg, where there was no comparison to the way we played then and against Huddersfield this season anyway Edited May 22, 2017 by the third man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 55 minutes ago, No 2 is r nilsson said: In the middle of all this speculation I've heard there's a manager who 2 years running narrowly missed out in the play offs, won 6 in a row in the run in, outplayed Arsenal, beat Newcastle home and away and finished 4th in the league with half a team injured. Should we be in for this guy? Is this the same manager who signs ;loads of players then didn't play them? played not to lose the most important match of the season not to lose then lost? couldn't beat Burton home or away? threw away matches at Leeds and Brighton that were there for the taking? if so then I wouldn't want him bet Newcastle really regret losing those two matches, look at what it cost them at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 2 hours ago, the third man said: Is this the same manager who signs ;loads of players then didn't play them? played not to lose the most important match of the season not to lose then lost? couldn't beat Burton home or away? threw away matches at Leeds and Brighton that were there for the taking? if so then I wouldn't want him bet Newcastle really regret losing those two matches, look at what it cost them at the end of the season I realise I'm not going to convince you and respect everyone's opinion, but we lost to Hull by a 25 yard screamer and to Huddersfield on penalties, so both were close, however he lined up (and I would have preferred a more attacking line up last Wednesday as well), our big squad proved essential in the end (even Semedo), you can't blame Carlos for missed penalties at Brighton or Leeds (I agree would could have won both). I've see every name under the sun on these pages - Monk (allowed his team to bottle it), Jokanovic (finished below us), Pearson (was a disaster at Derby)! I accept lots of people are disappointed and sometimes we had to grind out results that weren't pretty but in the 50 years I've been watching Wednesday Carlos is probably the best footballing coach we've had. It's just an opinion and I may get pulled apart but I want him to stay and build on these past 2 years. Let's have this chat again in October if he's still here and see where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendoddsdadsdogsdead Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 2 hours ago, No 2 is r nilsson said: I realise I'm not going to convince you and respect everyone's opinion, but we lost to Hull by a 25 yard screamer and to Huddersfield on penalties, so both were close, however he lined up (and I would have preferred a more attacking line up last Wednesday as well), our big squad proved essential in the end (even Semedo), you can't blame Carlos for missed penalties at Brighton or Leeds (I agree would could have won both). I've see every name under the sun on these pages - Monk (allowed his team to bottle it), Jokanovic (finished below us), Pearson (was a disaster at Derby)! I accept lots of people are disappointed and sometimes we had to grind out results that weren't pretty but in the 50 years I've been watching Wednesday Carlos is probably the best footballing coach we've had. It's just an opinion and I may get pulled apart but I want him to stay and build on these past 2 years. Let's have this chat again in October if he's still here and see where we are. Well said sir !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 3 hours ago, No 2 is r nilsson said: I realise I'm not going to convince you and respect everyone's opinion, but we lost to Hull by a 25 yard screamer and to Huddersfield on penalties, so both were close, however he lined up (and I would have preferred a more attacking line up last Wednesday as well), our big squad proved essential in the end (even Semedo), you can't blame Carlos for missed penalties at Brighton or Leeds (I agree would could have won both). I've see every name under the sun on these pages - Monk (allowed his team to bottle it), Jokanovic (finished below us), Pearson (was a disaster at Derby)! I accept lots of people are disappointed and sometimes we had to grind out results that weren't pretty but in the 50 years I've been watching Wednesday Carlos is probably the best footballing coach we've had. It's just an opinion and I may get pulled apart but I want him to stay and build on these past 2 years. Let's have this chat again in October if he's still here and see where we are. Jokanovic hasn't has over 40m to spend on his team which btw finished 4th bottom last season. He is the man to take us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Blue and white said: Jokanovic hasn't has over 40m to spend on his team which btw finished 4th bottom last season. He is the man to take us forward. I'd imagine the investment in Fulham over the past decade dwarfs ours. The infrastructure, academy, technical team, scouting network etc... was funded by Premier League money and parachute payments. They may not have spent as heavily in the past two seasons, but we've been playing catch-up in a major way after the best part of two decades being left to wither on the vine. To expect our recent spending to suddenly see us automatically leapfrog teams with a decade or more of established investment which has given them a solid base from which to build is a bit unrealistic. Edited May 23, 2017 by areNOTwhatTHEYseem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Blue and white said: Jokanovic hasn't has over 40m to spend on his team which btw finished 4th bottom last season. He is the man to take us forward. Jokanovic is a good coach, and if we didn't have Carlos I'd be delighted with Jokanovic. But Carlos is also a good coach. There are 4 or 5 players who should go, but most of those the club bought are good investments and have started to come good, or will do. Many of the teams who get out of the Championship knock on the door for a few years, and are often better for it. Leicester, Burnley, Brighton, Watford, Bournemouth were all up there for a few years building a solid foundation. I'm disappointed like everyone but that doesn't mean we throw away one of our best assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 IF Carlos was to leave (not bothered either way tbh) then we are all a bit presumptuous we could persuade Jokanovic to come here, especially from a London team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Blue and white said: Jokanovic hasn't has over 40m to spend on his team which btw finished 4th bottom last season. He is the man to take us forward. Again,no bugger knows how much Carlos has spent,but the figure has risen £6 million already from the last person who quoted how much had been spent,quite laughable really. Edited May 23, 2017 by BARMYARMY2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BECKS-TO-BUD Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 On 19/05/2017 at 21:34, the third man said: can anyone give a reason why we have played the way we have for most of the season with the players he had at his disposal can anyone give a good reason why we started on Wednesday with 10 of last seasons play off final team with all the players we have signed this season Can anyone give a good reason why he should stay, except we don't want this person or that No I can't but we haven't got a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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