Last_Great_Hope Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 46 minutes ago, saf said: Not strictly true. If the foul is deemed deliberate then you can be sent off. The ref must have thought Westwood was making a genuine attempt for the ball and brought the man down. Old rules red. New only a yellow. If however someone was through and clearly hacked and deliberately down in box to prevent va goal scoring opportunity then could be a red still. Also, a current red card challange would still result in a red, ie, reckless two footed lunge, even if you could argue that it was a "genuine" attempt to get the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Having seen it several times over , he played the man with full intention of taking him out , the covering defender would never have got back and he saved a certain goal . Do I have any sympathy for Forest , absolutely none what so ever , we've been on the receiving end of so many bad ref decisions it's time we had one go in our favour . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The rule states that he must make a genuine challenge for the ball, not just bring the man down. In the opinion of the only man who matters, the REFEREE, Westie made a genuine attempt to get the ball, but in the instance the player was upended. This means that a penalty must be awarded. However, it is considered that the award of a penalty and a YELLOW card is sufficient punishment. Had he only brought the player down without making a attempt to win the ball, then it would be a penalty and a red card. It was always the case that, should an attacker break away into the area, the Keeper was duty bound to go for the ball, which would usually be at the attacker's feet and would result in the attacker falling over. This would lead to a penalty kick being awarded. It was the introduction of the 'red card for the last man preventing a goalscoring opportunity' rule, that meant the GK could not go for the ball for fear of bringing the man down. The law was altered this last season because of the 'double jeopardy', which resulted in the new law, whereby the penalty is still awarded, but the card is yellow not red. Personally, I queried whether it was a genuine attempt, but the Ref was convinced that it was, and therefore entirely correct in his decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 11 hours ago, Blueblood said: Never mind the Westwood one, did anyone see the push on Fessi when he was clean through? It clearly put him off and would have been a certain red card but because Fessi didn't go down, he didn't get it and we wonder why players go down easy Ignored by the media. A clear push inside the area which definitely changed FF stride. Certain penalty and red card. Just as certain a pen as theirs yet people crying about the injustice to Forest. They got a free shot from 12 yards against a clearly shaken GK. And couldn't score. Oh dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1867Heaven Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 19 hours ago, ANDY said: Yeah that's what I've thought but what happened with hutch earlier in season? We appealed expecting it to be overturned but it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark77 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 8 hours ago, 1867Heaven said: Yeah that's what I've thought but what happened with hutch earlier in season? We appealed expecting it to be overturned but it wasn't. Because he handled, which isn't an attempt to play the ball. Granted he did slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Even after hearing about the rule changes don't think we could have complained if he was shown red card and think Westwood did exaggerate a little how injured he was after (Then again I see exaggeration of injury about 10 times a game on average in modern football). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Even after hearing about the rule changes don't think we could have complained if he was shown red card and think Westwood did exaggerate a little how injured he was after (Then again I see exaggeration of injury about 10 times a game on average in modern football). At the same time, I'm not so sure their lad had a tap in - Hunt had a great chance of getting to the ball ahead of him. Also, whether Westwood was really injured of not has no bearing on the referees decision - it was deemed a genuine attempt to go for the ball, and under the ruling, it's only a yellow card. Harsh on Forest to then miss the penalty, but McCormack is to blame for that - woeful penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexowl Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 2/19/2017 at 07:54, General_Grievous said: He did it on Tuesday and made a great save!!! Yes and close to the end of the game too after making a very good stop from opposite wing just moments earlier.Good man Westy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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