The Batman Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Just now, bigthinrob said: I'm confused. Put it this way. If you'd never been taught of any of the many Gods (there's been many and still are a fair few kicking about) then you'd have no God in your life so you wouldn't be a theist. If you're not a theist then by default you're a an atheist. The word wouldn't need to exsist of course and maybe the fact that it does is what confuses people like Grandad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: I'm confused. Ask god for his advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 20 hours ago, @owlstalk said: There's a HUGE difference between poking fun at a religion and out and out racism Racism isn't tolerated on Owlstalk and never will be. It's a disgusting side to humanity that needs stamping out Religion is not a race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 13 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: John Mcdonnell has a copy of Mao's little Red book. ( or is it a Whoosh situation i have missed) He doesnt now. He gave it to George Osborne. It was his personal signed copy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Ive noticed a distinct shift towards aggression from the atheists on this thread. its only a matter of time before they start with the genocide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: Religion is not a race That's been covered by the mods. Some people were liking all Muslims to extremists and bombers apparently. Which while not technically "racist" it is being prejudiced and against site rules. Edited September 19, 2016 by Donny.Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sonny said: So you were basically using the article to make the point that some Muslims are racist too, even though nobody whatsoever said that only non-Muslims are racist? Yes i suppose i was. But while we're on the subject, have you ever heard though, anyone ever call a Muslim Racist, because i can't recall hearing it, so basically just wanted to add some balance to the argument, because whatever you say, the implication even if unsaid, both on here and in the media is that it is always from one direction only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Just now, bigthinrob said: Yes i suppose i was. But while we're on the subject, have you ever heard though, anyone ever call a Muslim Racist, because i can't recall hearing it, so basically just wanted to add some balance to the argument, because whatever you say, the implication even if unsaid, both on here and in the media is that it is always from one direction only. I blame Harry Styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Grandad said: Stalin - 10 million Pol Pot - 2.5 million Mao - 50 million (someone who McDonnell and Corbyn admire) Mussolini - 2.5 million Do you want me to go on? Wheres your evidence that those four were Atheist All may well have been non theist but every time this argument arises these four ( and usually Hitler as well until Dawkins shot down that lie ) are brought up in a simplistic way . It can easily be argued that Communist Societies are not Atheist at all merely replacing formal religion with the cult of the one party state creating a de facto religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nevthelodgemoorowl Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 The Pope had his finger in the Pie of some of those 65 million lost lives he was a religious imposter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Grandad said: I take thats in lieu of any actual facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 I hate the human race. There's clearly people just sat in this thread who can't WAIT to be racist Makes me sick Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (The racists in this thread are so easy to spot too - they think they're being clever and think they're posting subtle hints but to the average non racist normal person they stick out a mile) Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) I've yet to hear anyone Atheist starting an Atheist Crusade or killing anyone in the name of Atheism Unless of course Grandad can find another really funny cartoon I am absolutely certain that there will be any number of killers through history who happened to be atheist Edited September 19, 2016 by Lawrie Madden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robswfc Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 24 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: John Mcdonnell has a copy of Mao's little Red book. ( or is it a Whoosh situation i have missed) 17 minutes ago, Grandad said: He doesnt now. He gave it to George Osborne. It was his personal signed copy too. Tiresome really.. It was a stupid mistake by McDonnell to try to suggest Osborne as sucking up to communists- thinking he could beat the Tories at their own jeering abuse. Any sensible person knows that neither Osborne or McDonnell is anything resembling a communist, and that China is now overwhelmingly capitalist rather than communist. Unfortunately we are now starting to see the cracks in capitalism as an economic system as we did with the communist states. Both are economic extremes. Corbyn and McDonnell's position is bang in the middle of those two extremes, which is exactly why its so appealing to so many people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 "The list of atheist dictators who killed people was well before the 1970's" "Ive never known of an atheist crusade" Weren't the crusades in the 11th century? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohgoditsjames Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) The crusades were started as a result of Islamic aggression in Europe before anyone says anything and the estimated number of deaths is around 1.7 million. Edited September 19, 2016 by ohgoditsjames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Grandad said: "The list of atheist dictators who killed people was well before the 1970's" "Ive never known of an atheist crusade" Weren't the crusades in the 11th century? How many of your atheist dictators were killing in the name of Atheism ? The answer you are looking for is none Where is the evidence that any of those you care name were in fact atheist ? They led mainly communist states that were undoubtedly non theist again wheres the evidence that they were actively Atheist Non theist and anti religion does not automatically mean Atheist I am Atheist because i know there is no such thing as god i am not anti religion Edited September 19, 2016 by Lawrie Madden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: I am Atheist because i know there is no such thing as god i am not anti religion How do you actually KNOW there is no God? prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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