Shelley Owl Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, hatcheeks said: Lee or Bannan should be dropped for Abdi. I'd drop Lee. The opposition would run through our midfield then, the combination needs to be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 30 minutes ago, scram said: Then i misread your post - in which case my apologies I wouldn't say he is awful left - maybe in our system but how many of our players would you say could hold down a regular place in the premier league - in a team of internationals that finished very respectably too? But he played left in a 3 - and thats the key - he thrives in a 3 man midfield - not wide of a 4 nor central in a 2 Agreed, he thrived when they used to play 4-3-3 as the AMF. That's why it seems a very strange one, seeing as I don't think Carlos has ever had intentions to play 4-3-3 since the failed experiment early last year? We may well see Abdi as a no10 in tougher away games though, and he should be ideal for that. But surely we can't have paid all that money just for those tougher matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamK2292 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Gave us very little again. Doesn't look like a £4m player at present. Difficult to judge a player playing out of position but he's been anonymous when he's played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazzaowl Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 2 hours ago, scram said: I think your being daft tbh We know him playing threatens your beloved formation But this is a guy who has playing ina significantly better team than ours - and starred in it - he has been in that team as a pivotal player that cruised to promotion - not 6th in a weak division He has just played 32 premier league games - he's not a f*cking mug He is PROVEN quality but if we insist on playing a system that he can't thrive in then i agree it's a monumental waste of an extremely good player But if it upsets the balance of what CC wants then fine - cut our losses and move him on Spot on, CC is starting to worry me by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) He's being played out of position and he looks traumatised from being played out wide in the premier league on a hiding to nothing. It looks to have drained him. Looks a completely different player to the guy making incisive and killer passes for Watford Edited September 17, 2016 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendoddsdadsdogsdead Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I posted in another thread about him p!aging in the number 10 role, for me, I think it suits him ideally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 We're ruining him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 3 hours ago, torryowl said: i wouldnt say he 's been awful here he just hasnt done anything he's neat and tidy doesnt give it away doesnt create anything .....he may well be played out of his favoured position but you'd think a good player like him could do a little more . A bit harsh, I felt he integrated nicely first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Orlando_Trustful said: We're ruining him. That's what I'm fearful for. I just want the player every single Watford fan around unilaterally and unequivocally raved about. And if the system is failing him, then maybe the system needs a right kick up the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyowl Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 To accommodate Abdi CC has to make a decision about the middle of the park because even Stevie Wonder can tell that he's wasted out wide. Bannan and Lee have been our best two players this season (arguably) and neither deserve to be dropped for Abdi but for all the possession we have and the neat interchanges, the ball needs to be moved forward quicker, we need to be more decisive and direct, make the possession count and be more positive. For me the solution is easy, both Hunt and Palmer have been inconsistent when given the chance, so firstly move Lee to RB, after all we signed him for that position originally and albeit for Oldham he was their player of the year on numerous occasions. He has a great engine, can pick a pass and defensively he's sound. Play a diamond or a conventional 4-4-2 of Bannan, Reach, Buckley/Wallace and Abdi and then we will see the best of a player that we paid £4 million for and who left Watford because he was played out of position. CC has to make the decision . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Decent Premier League Central Attacking Midfielder. He'll come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls_wawaw Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 What I really don't understand is when we signed him he openly said he had been played out of position last season and he had a word with the manager and he had assurances about playing in his best position.....surely if this is true then the player has been lied too and it's doubtable he will ever come back from this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 4-2-3-1 westy palmer lees loovens pudil Lee bannan reach abdi ff fletch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 If u want to play him anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 54 minutes ago, aeroswfc said: Decent Premier League Central Attacking Midfielder. He'll come good. Not if he's played out wide left and taken off after 60 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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