SolihullOwl79 Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Something needs to be done and if/when we are triumphant in the play off against Hull, the money gained would be ideal opportunity to carry out work on the ground. I believe a horse shoe design with North, Kop and South all joined together holding 32400 of which 400 are executive/vip boxes. No more pillars, or restricted views. The west stand to be knocked down and rebuilt to hold 3600 away fans with stadium control building knocked down and incorporated into the new west stand along with media centre for journalists etc etc. A new support mechanism for the large screen in the south west so it can remain in that corner plus a further large screen in the other north west corner with the spectator area removed. This equates to 36000 capacity with 10% allocation for away fans of 3600. We'd sell out against Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool possibly Spurs but games like West Ham, Middlesbrough, Leicester, Sunderland, Everton we'd get about 27000 home fans, and teams like Swansea, Bournemouth, Burnley, Palace, Southampton we'd struggle to get 24000 fans. No point in increasing the capacity when it will only sell out 6 games out of 19, and be 85% full for another 5 but remaining 8 games struggle to get 75% capacity as the ground wouldn't feel alive. It needs to be developed so that the acoustics carry from the home fans even when it's a low attendance. When the ground is ultimately redeveloped in what ever form it be in, should we relocate to another ground while the work is carried or stay in a vastly reduced ground with a stand out of use and restricted capacity? Edited May 21, 2016 by SolihullOwl79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 What a load of cack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 We should be more ambitious than that, we're on the up, Sheff Utd on the decline, we could be much bigger in 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Let's not get ahead of ourselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHowe Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Right now I'd rather see the kind of money that would cost spent of the team, back room staff and training facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 How about letting DC decide? He does own the gaff after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 36K capacity??????? You avin a laff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolihullOwl79 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 We should be more ambitious than that, we're on the up, Sheff Utd on the decline, we could be much bigger in 10 years. The rebuild could easily include infrastructure for future extensions in the event of demand being greater than supply! Just no point in over extending now to not be able to fill it up except for a handful of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I think 45k would be good if we did some redevelopment and make it to the premier league.Dont underestimate the growth of other clubs. The Premier League is only going to get bigger.40-45K would do us well for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Something needs to be done and if/when we are triumphant in the play off against Hull, the money gained would be ideal opportunity to carry out work on the ground. I believe a horse shoe design with North, Kop and South all joined together holding 32400 of which 400 are executive/vip boxes. No more pillars, or restricted views. The west stand to be knocked down and rebuilt to hold 3600 away fans with stadium control building knocked down and incorporated into the new west stand along with media centre for journalists etc etc. A new support mechanism for the large screen in the south west so it can remain in that corner plus a further large screen in the other north west corner with the spectator area removed. This equates to 36000 capacity with 10% allocation for away fans of 3600. We'd sell out against Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool possibly Spurs but games like West Ham, Middlesbrough, Leicester, Sunderland, Everton we'd get about 27000 home fans, and teams like Swansea, Bournemouth, Burnley, Palace, Southampton we'd struggle to get 24000 fans. No point in increasing the capacity when it will only sell out 6 games out of 19, and be 85% full for another 5 but remaining 8 games struggle to get 75% capacity as the ground wouldn't feel alive. It needs to be developed so that the acoustics carry from the home fans even when it's a low attendance. When the ground is ultimately redeveloped in what ever form it be in, should we relocate to another ground while the work is carried or stay in a vastly reduced ground with a stand out of use and restricted capacity? You really are like, the worst poster on this forum. And that's coming from me... the second worst poster on this forum The reason being? You type eloquently, you clearly have some intelligence... there just never seems to be any common sense behind your posts. Have you done the calculations? How do you know the capacity would be 32,400 in your 'horseshoe'? Why would we rebuild the away stand to have almost half the capacity that it currently has? We would absolutely see 28,000+ out against every Premier League team when we get there and would sell out at least half the games we would be there if capacity was 36,000... how do you know we wouldn't? And then there's the simple matter of we haven't beaten Hull yet. Utterly bizarre OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The first years money should be earmarked for players and facilities that will help players - training, nutrition and physio. We shouldn't be doing anything outside of cosmetic and urgent work on the stadium til we are established in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolihullOwl79 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 36K capacity??????? You avin a laff? The ground has been able to hold 38k ever since it became all seater. When since 1992 have we EVER averaged over 32k attendance in a league season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The rebuild could easily include infrastructure for future extensions in the event of demand being greater than supply! Just no point in over extending now to not be able to fill it up except for a handful of games. Ok Sir Robert McAlpine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Who - at this moment in time - gives a throw about a new stadium and our maximum capacity? It's the play off final weeks ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 The ground has been able to hold 38k ever since it became all seater. When since 1992 have we EVER averaged over 32k attendance in a league season? Whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyowl Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Why would you want to decrease the capacity when people struggled to get tickets for Cardiff and Brighton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolihullOwl79 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 You really are like, the worst poster on this forum. And that's coming from me... the second worst poster on this forum The reason being? You type eloquently, you clearly have some intelligence... there just never seems to be any common sense behind your posts. Have you done the calculations? How do you know the capacity would be 32,400 in your 'horseshoe'? Why would we rebuild the away stand to have almost half the capacity that it currently has? We would absolutely see 28,000+ out against every Premier League team when we get there and would sell out at least half the games we would be there if capacity was 36,000... how do you know we wouldn't? And then there's the simple matter of we haven't beaten Hull yet. Utterly bizarre OP We're both students my friend. I graduate this year with a 2:1 in Mental Health Nursing. You really believe we'll get 28000 against Swansea, Bournemouth, Crystal Palace, West Brom, Watford and Stoke? Capacity against West Ham, Everton, Southampton,Burnley, Middlesbrough, Sunderland? Very very doubtful. How do I know they'd get 32400 into a horseshoe? Because they could design it that way so it would fit that many people in! Why make the west stand smaller than it is? So that it would include other facilities like advised, proper stadium control, media centre plus it would be separate from rest of conjoined ground keeping the away fans completely separate from the home fans meaning that the home fans would not have restricted sales. The ground needs to be developed in some way at some point regardless of whether we beat hull or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Why are we talking about horseshoes? What's happening?!? Think the site is broke. Mods - please close the site. Stop this madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyowl Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Nothing wrong with the World Cup planned redevelopement. All the work for planning has already been done. Why move back to square one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolihullOwl79 Posted May 21, 2016 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Whats your point? The stadium often appears to be full of empty seats except in important big matches. It's good to have slightly smaller ground ie only losing 3000 seats that can't be used anyway (see Arsenal and Brighton where we sold out and attendance was 35k and a few hundred with over 3000 seats unable to be used). So while the official capacity is reduced from 38968 or what ever it is, the current useable capacity is under 36000 anyway, so technically re developing the ground in a better design with better facilities with 36000 capacity is actually an increase and a better fan experience in a louder more vibrant environment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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