Guest Manwithastick Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 No. They haven't renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Dangerous game we're playing here. 1. Even when we were in the Prem, demand for tickets and boxes was never that high. Should have no problem getting a box at those prices next year. 2. Supporters have seen no evidence on the pitch yet that we will have a side anywhere near capable of being in the top 6. I know it's only the first week in June but there is still mumblings that Gray won't be here and some of the out of contract players offered deals may be off. 3. As anyone who has supported Wednesday for any great length of time will know, there are no guarantees in football and being Wednesday, if something can go wrong, it will. 4. And most importantly, 39k + VAT is a scandalous price for what you are getting. Someone at our club needs a reality check. We could easily have no filled executive boxes. agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djstatic Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 No. They haven't renewed. Wouldn't blame them. It is too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eDDie Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think Chansiri's got a bigger dick than most of you. If you build it, they will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djstatic Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think Chansiri's got a bigger dick than most of you. If you build it, they will come. I'm not doubting the man clearly has balls. He bought us for gods sake. However, I just can't jusify the pricing here. It will also be interesting to see phase 3 of the season tickets and matchday pricing. Looking like 40 quid easily on the south. I just don't want to see our loyal fanbase alienated due to unrealistic pricing structures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Dangerous game we're playing here. 1. Even when we were in the Prem, demand for tickets and boxes was never that high. Should have no problem getting a box at those prices next year. 2. Supporters have seen no evidence on the pitch yet that we will have a side anywhere near capable of being in the top 6. I know it's only the first week in June but there is still mumblings that Gray won't be here and some of the out of contract players offered deals may be off. 3. As anyone who has supported Wednesday for any great length of time will know, there are no guarantees in football and being Wednesday, if something can go wrong, it will. 4. And most importantly, 39k + VAT is a scandalous price for what you are getting. Someone at our club needs a reality check. We could easily have no filled executive boxes. Is it really a dangerous game? Not sure of my figures here but if you think about it say there are 10 premium boxes at £40k each. That is £400k less tax. They give a bar allowance per game of around £75 (from last years prices) so 75 x 23(games) x 10(boxes) = £17250. Then there is the cost of around 100/180 meals for 23 games and the cost of cooks and servers. Utilities costs and maintenance plus any other hosting costs. Then the cost of this sales team which seems to be going around. I wouldn't mind betting that actual profit per 10 boxes is only about £80 to 100k per year. Or am I way out and missing something who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WC1Owl Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Is it really a dangerous game? Not sure of my figures here but if you think about it say there are 10 premium boxes at £40k each. That is £400k less tax. They give a bar allowance per game of around £75 (from last years prices) so 75 x 23(games) x 10(boxes) = £17250. Then there is the cost of around 100/180 meals for 23 games and the cost of cooks and servers. Utilities costs and maintenance plus any other hosting costs. Then the cost of this sales team which seems to be going around. I wouldn't mind betting that actual profit per 10 boxes is only about £80 to 100k per year. Or am I way out and missing something who knows. There'll be VAT on top of the prices, and there will be fixed costs that you will incur just by providing the service at the right level to even one box, so the downside risk is bigger than you estimate, but it isn't huge in the larger scheme of things. It won't be a disaster if some of the boxes aren't sold at full price, and it may be that putting in place a better level of service than previously is the right long term bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Up until the season before last I had a ST right in front of the central boxes, reyt gutted I moved now! I am directly in front of the central boxes - Im going to be in Super Box land to see us get promoted! They had better not change those seats to super seats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Is it really a dangerous game? Not sure of my figures here but if you think about it say there are 10 premium boxes at £40k each. That is £400k less tax. They give a bar allowance per game of around £75 (from last years prices) so 75 x 23(games) x 10(boxes) = £17250. Then there is the cost of around 100/180 meals for 23 games and the cost of cooks and servers. Utilities costs and maintenance plus any other hosting costs. Then the cost of this sales team which seems to be going around. I wouldn't mind betting that actual profit per 10 boxes is only about £80 to 100k per year. Or am I way out and missing something who knows. I've been thinking something along these lines. In reality even a 50% loss in revenue in this area won't cover the wages of one decent player.What is concerning me slightly is this pricing + the ticket price increases. It appears there may be either a lack of understanding or a disregard of what our fans see as a reasonable price to pay. I just hope that DC is not relying on these price hikes to fund this venture. Edited June 3, 2015 by RUMBELOWS91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djstatic Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I've been thinking something along these lines. In reality even a 50% loss in revenue in this area won't cover the wages of one decent player. What is concerning me slightly is this pricing + the ticket price increases. It appears there may be either a lack of understanding or a disregard of what our fans see as a reasonable price to pay. I just hope that DC is not relying on these price hikes to fund this venture. This is what worries me. If it is a complete disregard for our fans, I do worry what road we will go down. Clearly, increasing matchday and corporate revenue helps in relation to FFP and what can be spent as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I've been thinking something along these lines. In reality even a 50% loss in revenue in this area won't cover the wages of one decent player. What is concerning me slightly is this pricing + the ticket price increases. It appears there may be either a lack of understanding or a disregard of what our fans see as a reasonable price to pay. I just hope that DC is not relying on these price hikes to fund this venture. I think DC accepts he will be bankrolling the club and the only place a club can possibly make real money is the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 This is what worries me. If it is a complete disregard for our fans, I do worry what road we will go down. Clearly, increasing matchday and corporate revenue helps in relation to FFP and what can be spent as a result.I don't see us increasing matchday and corporate revenues with this pricing structure- not unless Chansiri is planning on buying half the South Stand every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think DC accepts he will be bankrolling the club and the only place a club can possibly make real money is the PL.I hope so- but why price people out if he accepts he'll need to foot the bill anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djstatic Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I don't see us increasing matchday and corporate revenues with this pricing structure- not unless Chansiri is planning on buying half the South Stand every game. Which is what some on here have stated will happen. However, some very loyal fans who have spent a lot of money (24k per season) have been priced out. Just leaves a bitter taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I hope so- but why price people out if he accepts he'll need to foot the bill anyway? Just a bit of conditioning perhaps rather than a big jump if/when promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
***HIRSTY*** Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 What is concerning me slightly is this pricing + the ticket price increases. It appears there may be either a lack of understanding or a disregard of what our fans see as a reasonable price to pay. I just hope that DC is not relying on these price hikes to fund this venture. Our most expensive matchday tickets last season were still cheaper than 17 other clubs in the Championship. If Mr Chansiri looked at our pricing in comparison to others in the Championship, and why shouldn't he, he may think a price increase is justifiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Which is what some on here have stated will happen. However, some very loyal fans who have spent a lot of money (24k per season) have been priced out. Just leaves a bitter taste. Know what you mean when you mention 24k in one go but that is 1k per game so per person isn't bad at all for meal, drinks, hosting, parking etc especially when you think what just the seat would cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Don't forget the box is their box to use on non match days and the club just charges for refreshments. So companies can use it for meetings and publicity or just generally trying to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Im just going to go and say my names Holmes. Probably wear a deerstalker to be safe Nooooo just mention my name at the reception and they'll get security to escort you. Escort you off the premises! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djstatic Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Totally understand where you're coming form Triple O. My problem is not the monetary loss which as you have argued could be minimal compared with overall costs. It's the fact that people who have had a box since Adam was a lad, can't afford it. I suppose they could always buy a phase 3 season ticket but hardly rewarding loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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