wednesdaywizard Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Sorry Neil, but Chris Waddle still holds this flame in my eyes I politely disagree. Waddle was brilliant but predictable, his footwork was just too quick for the time so that allowed him to beat the full backs. He probably had a better footballing brain that Paolo. (or a better brain altogether) Paolo was an entirely different level tho. Unpredictable, quick, powerful, incredibly skilful and with a fire that Waddle never had. Where Waddle frustrated defenders, Paolo terrified them. He was mis-managed by people who became intimidated by him and we didn't support him after the push. We had a £10m/£15m player on our hands there at that time. One of the best in the league, as he went on to prove. That in no way takes anything away from Mr. Waddle by the way. I was lucky (old) enough to worship him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 John Sheridan might have something to say about that, and Chris Waddle, and David Hirst, and Jon Bestwetherick! None of those could single handedly change the tempo and outcome of a game through sheer will alone like Paolo. What waddle did vs West Ham, Paolo did regularly and every time he felt like it Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 None of those could single handedly change the tempo and outcome of a game through sheer will alone like Paolo. What waddle did vs West Ham, Paolo did regularly and every time he felt like it utter bs, if he was that good why did he never win anything other than in Scotland??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I politely disagree. Waddle was brilliant but predictable, his footwork was just too quick for the time so that allowed him to beat the full backs. He probably had a better footballing brain that Paolo. (or a better brain altogether) Paolo was an entirely different level tho. Unpredictable, quick, powerful, incredibly skilful and with a fire that Waddle never had. Where Waddle frustrated defenders, Paolo terrified them. He was mis-managed by people who became intimidated by him and we didn't support him after the push. We had a £10m/£15m player on our hands there at that time. One of the best in the league, as he went on to prove. That in no way takes anything away from Mr. Waddle by the way. I was lucky (old) enough to worship him as well. di canio hardly played for Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesdaywizard Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 di canio hardly played for Italy. Waddle didn't play for England when he was at SWFC. He should have though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Career that two players had clearly shows that Waddle was able to make bigger impact, and on the bigger stage as well. Last player that ever made Paolo Maldini look ridiculous as well. Di Canio, never managed. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Sorry but it's Sir David Eric Hirst by a billion miles for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Hirst for Wednesday, but career-wise it's Waddle by a mile. WC semi finals, European cup etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Absolute travesty that Waddle wasn't playing for England when he was with us. Same with Des Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Hirst for Wednesday, but career-wise it's Waddle by a mile. WC semi finals, European cup etc. You can't argue with that fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) None of those could single handedly change the tempo and outcome of a game through sheer will alone like Paolo. What waddle did vs West Ham, Paolo did regularly and every time he felt like it Carbone and Di Canio could change the outcome of games with their skill but they didn't do it enough. They didn't do it enough in their home country or enough to make their way into the Italian team. I loved watching them but I also loved watching the likes of Sheridan; Hirst and Waddle in their pomp too, who were more consistent. Arguably Carbone and Di Canio didn't hit the heights of Sheridan, Hirst or Waddle during their time in our colours. They did go on to play outstandingly well after they left us and we will never know if we could've been successful with them in our side because of the way they were mismanaged and driven out of the club by our owner and manager at the time. They weren't on the same level as Zola; Bergkamp or Cantona who for me are the best ever Premier League players. Di Canio and Carbone although they were great entertainers to watch in our colours and I loved watching them and still love them as players but for me they weren't on the same level as the likes of Sheridan; Hirst, Waddle, Harkes and Nilsson, true greats who wore our shirt and achieved success. And in terms of honours in modern times Roland Nilsson and John Harkes were by far our most successful players during their careers in the modern era. Edited January 26, 2015 by MilansMissingMarbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Hirst for Wednesday, but career-wise it's Waddle by a mile. WC semi finals, European cup etc. Neil did say "Most skillful", not best, or most succesful. And hes right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Neil did say "Most skillful", not best, or most succesful. And hes right. i was responding to his comment above about his ability to change games, not the original op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Comparing the goals Hirst and Di Canio scored in our colours, Hirst's goals were more varied and arguably more skillful. Because Hirst scored all kinds of goals. Individual goals like Di Canio, but also headers, long range efforts, virtually every kind of goal. So for me Hirst was our most skillful and complete striker we've ever had, in the modern era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I vote for Waddle as most skilful player. Waddle did it for us in the big games as well. Strange how Di Canio never played international football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 di canio hardly played for Italy.he didnt play any for the full italian team which is amazing .dont know who kept him out but he must have been some player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I vote for Waddle as most skilful player. Waddle did it for us in the big games as well. Strange how Di Canio never played international football. Italy had the likes of Zola the Premier League's best ever player in my opinion, Roberto Baggio and Alessandro Del Pierro, etc Benito Carbone and Paolo Di Canio, although great in our colours and in the Premier League weren't on the same level as those players. In terms of skillful English players Chris Waddle was on the same par with some of the best English players of his time during his peak but just like Matt Le Tissier and David Hirst, they were overlooked or not picked enough for the England team whilst at their peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 blimey, I thought Di Canio had got at least a couple of caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) I politely disagree. Waddle was brilliant but predictable, his footwork was just too quick for the time so that allowed him to beat the full backs. He probably had a better footballing brain that Paolo. (or a better brain altogether) Paolo was an entirely different level tho. Unpredictable, quick, powerful, incredibly skilful and with a fire that Waddle never had. Where Waddle frustrated defenders, Paolo terrified them. He was mis-managed by people who became intimidated by him and we didn't support him after the push. We had a £10m/£15m player on our hands there at that time. One of the best in the league, as he went on to prove. That in no way takes anything away from Mr. Waddle by the way. I was lucky (old) enough to worship him as well. No problem Mr Wizard - its the beauty of football, it splits opinions for different reasons. I do agree with every word you say. I just have 'Waddle tinted glasses' Edited January 26, 2015 by ramone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 he didnt play any for the full italian team which is amazing .dont know who kept him out but he must have been some player Italy had Zola, Baggio, Totti and Del Pierro at their pomp, Carbone and Di Canio weren't even close to making the Italian squad at the time. But to be fair to them it was held against them that they were journeymen and never really did it for any of the big Italian teams in their home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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