shandypants Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think that he needs more time before we can judge him. He's clearly not yet got used to the physical and mental pace of the Championship and needs to learn how to work himself a position where he can get a chance to score in this league. He appears to have the physical attributes and the technique; it was his speed of thought that let him down tonight IMO. For example, he "turned" a defender tonight out on our left (in front of the North in the second half) but then immediately the ball got nicked off him by another defender when trying to advance towards goal. As the game went on, he seemed to get more used to the pace. He played better tonight than he did against Derby so he's improving. He's joined the team after preseason. He needs time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think that he needs more time before we can judge him. He's clearly not yet got used to the physical and mental pace of the Championship and needs to learn how to work himself a position where he can get a chance to score in this league. He appears to have the physical attributes and the technique; it was his speed of thought that let him down tonight IMO. For example, he "turned" a defender tonight out on our left (in front of the North in the second half) but then immediately the ball got nicked off him by another defender when trying to advance towards goal. As the game went on, he seemed to get more used to the pace. He played better tonight than he did against Derby so he's improving. He's joined the team after preseason. He needs time. I remember the incident you are on about. I thought two things at the time. a) He looked heavy legged after so much running. b) He thought he'd try and create something for himself as he'd had no service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I remember the incident you are on about. I thought two things at the time. a) He looked heavy legged after so much running. b) He thought he'd try and create something for himself as he'd had no service. Yep, I'd agree with that. I think he needs to spend more time occupying the penalty area. He drifted out a lot tonight trying to work himself space to receive the ball - the Millwall defence were probably ecstatic to see him doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I think that he needs more time before we can judge him. He's clearly not yet got used to the physical and mental pace of the Championship and needs to learn how to work himself a position where he can get a chance to score in this league. He appears to have the physical attributes and the technique; it was his speed of thought that let him down tonight IMO. For example, he "turned" a defender tonight out on our left (in front of the North in the second half) but then immediately the ball got nicked off him by another defender when trying to advance towards goal. As the game went on, he seemed to get more used to the pace. He played better tonight than he did against Derby so he's improving. He's joined the team after preseason. He needs time. I thought he did everything right in that bit of play in front of the north. Latched onto the ball, instantly looked to drive forward, nutmegged their defender, then had the ball pinched off him by a Millwall midfielder who did a fantastic job sprinting back to help his defence. If it wasn't for the work rate of that lad, Stevie's clean through and probably scoring his first goal. I felt for him tonight. Both games he's played actually. Movement, work rate and first touch have all been sound but he's had to try and feed off scraps. Numerous times, tonight in particular, he's made the move off the back of Nuhiu anticipating the flick, but the big lad's flicked it either back where May ran from, or straight out of play. Nothing more demoralising for a striker when your putting the work in and making the right runs, but the ball doesn't arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Nothing more demoralising for a striker when your putting the work in and making the right runs, but the ball doesn't arrive. ^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I thought he did everything right in that bit of play in front of the north. Latched onto the ball, instantly looked to drive forward, nutmegged their defender, then had the ball pinched off him by a Millwall midfielder who did a fantastic job sprinting back to help his defence. If it wasn't for the work rate of that lad, Stevie's clean through and probably scoring his first goal. I felt for him tonight. Both games he's played actually. Movement, work rate and first touch have all been sound but he's had to try and feed off scraps. Numerous times, tonight in particular, he's made the move off the back of Nuhiu anticipating the flick, but the big lad's flicked it either back where May ran from, or straight out of play. Nothing more demoralising for a striker when your putting the work in and making the right runs, but the ball doesn't arrive. Your right that their midfielder did well getting back to make the covering challenge but I believe that if May thinking is sharper then he doesn't give the midfielder the opportunity to nick the ball. It's small margins of improvement required - my guess is that if May was up to speed physically and mentally then he turns the defender and avoids the tackle from the midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Your right that their midfielder did well getting back to make the covering challenge but I believe that if May thinking is sharper then he doesn't give the midfielder the opportunity to nick the ball. It's small margins of improvement required - my guess is that if May was up to speed physically and mentally then he turns the defender and avoids the tackle from the midfielder. I genuinely think he might have just been spent. I don't think I have seen a forward work as hard that since. Well....I don't know when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) I genuinely think he might have just been spent. I don't think I have seen a forward work as hard that since. Well....I don't know when. He could well have been. I guess we're both thinking similarly; just slight variations on a 'common' opinion. Edited August 20, 2014 by shandypants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He could well have been. I guess we're both thinking similarly; just slight variations on a 'common' opinion. Just hope he doesn't get too frustrated and start running himself into the ground all the time and then have leaden legs when/if a chance does eventually get played into him in a decent position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fedor Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 May needs to get closer to nuhiu when he has the ball. They always seem to be miles apart, and then they try to rush it when they're thirty yards from their box. Neither of them are agile,but they don't have enough support from the midfield...Other than Maghomma. I said this at half time to Richowl, I thought Saturday he was a bit overawed. Much improved tonght , his workrate was unbelievable, maybe did too much.His movement was good but the service was poor, He has only really had half chances so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 , his workrate was unbelievable, I honestly am struggling to think of when I last saw a forward work so hard for so little reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I honestly am struggling to think of when I last saw a forward work so hard for so little reward. Paul Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Can see the lad has talent He ain't gonna score if the other players don't provide for him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Paul Williams? I think you'd have to go that far back. Though he had the advantage of Hirst, Sheridan et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUowl Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I honestly am struggling to think of when I last saw a forward work so hard for so little reward. Jay Bothroyd ? ;) But seriously, I loved the work rate but he must be knackered when he actually gets the ball. That's what annoyed me about Madine at Derby really, he let Stevie do all the running despite himself having the fresh legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) Just hope he doesn't get too frustrated and start running himself into the ground all the time and then have leaden legs when/if a chance does eventually get played into him in a decent position. I agree, hence my earlier comment about spending more time centrally. Even if the standard in the Championship wasn't higher than the SPL, May would still have to get to grips with the style of play in that's employed in this league. I think May needs to be a bit selfish and think about his play (ala Gary Lineker or Jermaine Dafoe) rather than putting a shift in for the team. He's been bought as a goalscorer, therefore, he needs to get onto the habit of scoring goals before he thinks about anything else IMHO. Edited August 20, 2014 by shandypants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I agree, hence my earlier comment about spending more time centrally. Even if the standard in the Championship wasn't higher than the SPL, May would still have to get to grips with the style of play in that's employed in this league. I think May needs to be a bit selfish and think about his play (ala Gary Lineker or Jermaine Dafoe) rather than putting a shift in for the team. He's been bought as a goalscorer, therefore, he needs to get onto the habit of scoring goals before he thinks about anything else IMHO. True. He's clearly been brought in because he knows where the net is. Might take him a while though to get used to playing the 18 yard with, I'm sure one of the Porridge monsters who posted on here said he did a hell of a lot of wide work for St. Johnston and MacLean was the central man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He does a cracking impersonation of 'Angel of the North' Jesus on the cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Owlstalk full of numpties and most of them don't even go to games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Owlstalk full of numpties and most of them don't even go to games Apparently you're not allowed to point that out. I didn't go last night so can't comment, however, the reaction by some on here is what I expected. I'll take on board what snooty and a few others are saying and ignore the other numpties. It would have been totally different if we'd have hung on, we would have been heading for the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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