mcmigo Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Good point. Southampton for example have made some hefty wedge with the likes of Bale, Kenwyne Jones, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Walcott and look how they have progressed with that injection. Our record is bleak on that score. Exactly- Jones raked in a load of money at Cardiff. Ramsey, Roger Johnson, Chopra. That money build the ground and kept them going, and laid the foundation for promotion. Without those player sales in that sort of magnitude I don't think we can fund a proper tilt at promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 MM took over on the 14th December 2010. On the 18th December we played Exeter away - and in his first match as Chairman he watched us go down to a 5-1 defeat. Our line-up that day was; 0 Nicky Weaver 2 Tommy Spurr 4 Darren Purse 8 Tommy Miller 11 Jermaine Johnson 13 Mark Beevers 14 Darren Potter 15 Chris Sedgwick 19 Clinton Morrison 21 Gary Teale 26 Daniel Jones The manager - of course - was Alan 'Ive done my coaching badges' Irvine. Milan paid £7m to the Co-Op Bank which wiped out debts of £23m. He paid the HMRC bill of £1.4m - which the club had been given 30 days to pay on the 17th November. We were playing in the 3rd tier. Less than 3 years later we kicked off for our 2nd season back in the 2nd tier, and our line up was 01 Kirkland 04 Gardner 05 Zayatte 19 Mattock (Maghoma - 37' ) 22 Palmer Booked 11 J Johnson 12 Prutton 14 Coke 34 Nuhiu 07 Antonio 17 Helan The manager - Dave Jones. Thats ON the pitch. Off the pitch - again - we've made quantum leaps forward, revenues are up, crowds are well up. We have a development squad and an Academy plan, the Community programme is one of the best in the whole country. If MM does leave the club soon (and I personally think he will) he can hold his head up high, the ship has been steadied, the club is much more attractive to investment, and its clearly going forward at all levels. STOP BLOODY MOANING - ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY.</p> Should have sacked Irvine from day 1..Michael Morrisson, Madine, Reynolds, Reda (OKish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Deleted member Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I thought he took over against Bristol Rovers? No he was there that day - in the Directors Box - but the deal wasn't approved until the 14th December - the next game being the game with Exeter on the 18th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris E Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I suppose the giveaway was the fact you can string a sentence together Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Are you sure? I was going to post the same. I think Daveyboy has been in the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHOwl Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 On the pitch it's too early in the season to see if we've progressed Off the pitch you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know things have improved massively What the hell....? Now I've seen everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 How do we compare to last season ? Have we progressed ? We haven't lost as many games this season, that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsfaninNorway Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 How do we compare to last season ? Have we progressed ? We probably own more quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Still 3 weeks before the transfer window closes for a short time as we stand the squad is far weaker than last season prudent work should have been done in the close season and for me dave jones as failed as we stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 MM's biggest issue so far at SWFC - we never sell players for decent money. People have gone on about Wigan's spending this summer but they have been a selling club for years - Baines, Valencia, the 3 that have gone to Everton this summer etc. They pick em up cheap, polish them, flog on for a profit. Their net spend is probably less than ours. But, Brunt, Grant and Bougherra aside , we never sell players for decent money. I still think MM appointed Jones due to his MASSIVE player transfer surplus achieved at Cardiff. The model there was to bring in a mix of young un's to develop and sell for profit, and use some of the funds to pay big wages to tried and tested quality. That must be the model they are trying to operate here but it lives and dies on selling our best players for decent money. That, so far, hasn't happened. Until it does I don't see us getting the budget to compete with the top 6. To be fair, In addition to the frees - DJ had inherited some talent in Joe Ledley, Earnshaw,Cameron Jerome & Gunter or signed the likes of Chopra [who was bought for £600K and sold for £6.6M] & then sold them for £millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chefwednesday Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) MM took over on the 14th December 2010. On the 18th December we played Exeter away - and in his first match as Chairman he watched us go down to a 5-1 defeat. Our line-up that day was; 0 Nicky Weaver 2 Tommy Spurr 4 Darren Purse 8 Tommy Miller 11 Jermaine Johnson 13 Mark Beevers 14 Darren Potter 15 Chris Sedgwick 19 Clinton Morrison 21 Gary Teale 26 Daniel Jones The manager - of course - was Alan 'Ive done my coaching badges' Irvine. Milan paid £7m to the Co-Op Bank which wiped out debts of £23m. He paid the HMRC bill of £1.4m - which the club had been given 30 days to pay on the 17th November. We were playing in the 3rd tier. Less than 3 years later we kicked off for our 2nd season back in the 2nd tier, and our line up was 01 Kirkland 04 Gardner 05 Zayatte 19 Mattock (Maghoma - 37' ) 22 Palmer Booked 11 J Johnson 12 Prutton 14 Coke 34 Nuhiu 07 Antonio 17 Helan The manager - Dave Jones. Thats ON the pitch. Off the pitch - again - we've made quantum leaps forward, revenues are up, crowds are well up. We have a development squad and an Academy plan, the Community programme is one of the best in the whole country. If MM does leave the club soon (and I personally think he will) he can hold his head up high, the ship has been steadied, the club is much more attractive to investment, and its clearly going forward at all levels. STOP BLOODY MOANING - ROME WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY. Negged Who said anything about building Rome? We're Sheffield Wednesday. Edited August 10, 2013 by chefwednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 When looking at our squad now, who could we sell for £1mil + ? Antonio Kirkland maybe? Lets now imagine we have a reasonable first 6 months or even full season... who might be worth it then? Antonio - maybe much more Kirkland Reda Johnson? Buxton? Maghoma? Again, potentially much more Nuhiu? McCabe? Palmer? Zayatte? Suddenly we own a good set of young players worth a fair bit in the market. Amazing what a bit of time and runaway imagination can conjure up at 10am in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 On the pitch it's too early in the season to see if we've progressed Off the pitch you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know things have improved massively yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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