Euse Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Why not? Because it was a different team under the leadership of a different manager. n it was 2 seasons ago & completely irrelevant to our current situation. Basically what you're saying is that, no matter how many games we lose this season (or who against), they will have no right to moan as we lost to Stevenage a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Says everything given the fact that you've neg some of my posts without even replying to them or entering into the debate. As for the self importance - I'm not interested in being self serving. i enjoy the discussion, banter and debate and I don't feel the need to be a 'big name' on this forum - can you state the same?That's one of jto favourite lines that Infact he's said it to you a few times he's even said it to Neil before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) I posted this on another thread but it sums up my thoughts for this Saturday. Football is a strange game, I mean who would have thought on the way back from Stevenage two years ago, that the end of that season would have been so exciting and end with us beating the pigs to promotion. I remember the meltdown on here then, we are probably going to go on and win the league this season, now that's positive. Edited August 7, 2013 by Corneliusreeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleblue Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The two goals were amazing I also agree - my optimism/pessimism for the season will largely be affected by the performance against Burnley now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I don't often agree with you JTO but this time you're right. At full-strength we should be pretty much a match for anyone in our division. We're a fair bit off full-strength yet due to injuries and bringing in a couple more players and last night was evidence of that. We have squad depth but not everyone is going to be able to step up to the mark unfortunately. That's football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian joicey Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 This was a HUGE game for them, and they turned up. It wasn't to us, and lost. Probably deservedly. This overreaction is ridiculous though. why so ??? we were simply THAT bad, embarrassingly so. we looked like amateurs,they laughed at us,they ole'd their passes when we couldn't get near the ball. we didn't JUST lose (i can take that),we embarrassed ourselves to such a degree that it is UNACCEPTABLE - hence the (over) reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleblue Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Look at 2006-07 - Sunderland lost their first 4 games, went out to lower league opposition (Bury) in round 1 of the league cup then went on to win the title with 88 points! Our season isn't over yet :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian joicey Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 ps/ penalties,tap-ins and now WONDER GOALS don't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 ps/ penalties,tap-ins and now WONDER GOALS don't count Do they count as bad defending in the way a free header in the six yard box would though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 What happens, happens. I have every faith that, with Buxton & Reda back + a new striker & a central midfielder...we can have a decent season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TonyOwl88 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I don't want to be the voice of negativity, but I think we are right to be concerned at that performance and result. Rotherham are a good team, but we are in the league above them, and should really be finishing 20 places above them imo. Wonder goals or not, we offered nothing, and they just kept taking the ball off us and coming back at us over and over and over again. It was pretty much one way traffic, and we never looked much of a threat. The fast tempo should have worked in our favour given the pace we have in the team, but its like our players are slow mentally or something. The decision making is poor, and without extra time on the ball, we are completely inept. That was the biggest disappointment for me. Going into the game thinking that we were going to cause teams problems this season with our pace and quick tempo, and then coming undone in that exact manner to a lower league team. Makes me lose the optimism from the first game's performance to see us go down without a fight. Defence looks sleepy, (probably because someone forgot that we need full-backs), and we can't seem to deal with set-plays properly. Don't forget that Kirkland is a stand-out performer for us, so the results don't necesarily reflect the full extent of our defencive frailties, but they will do against Championship opposition with quality strikers if we don't sort it out soon. We aren't much stronger as a squad to what we were in League One, and IMO areas like CM are weaker now. We are also inadequate up front at this level, and are blatantly waiting for loan players to patch up our make-shift squad. I know people hate to admit it, but the signings DJ made last summer were expensive, because he made so many of them. Factor in agents fees and signing bonuses, times it by 8, plus wages and the wages of the loan players needed to replace them because half of them were sh!t, = where all the money went. We're not Man City. (The same thing happened with Irvine and Megson in L1 remember; Jan 2011 meant Megson had no money). We haven't had a midfield on perminant contract since Megson... is it really that hard? Not least because Lines/Semedo would have been our best combination STILL if we'd not shipped Lines out and written Semedo off because he struggled to make the step up immediately, (as did the rest of the squad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 We haven't had a midfield on perminant contract since Megson... McCabe, Corry and Pecnik have all been brought in by Jones on permanent contracts, Coke, Prutton and Palmer have all been re-signed to them. How many do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 We currently only have players on permanent contract, never mind the midfielders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euse Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 It has got to the stage now where nobody knows what the argument is anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 We currently only have players on permanent contract, never mind the midfielders! true we will be better when the loan players arrive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Because it was a different team under the leadership of a different manager. n it was 2 seasons ago & completely irrelevant to our current situation. Basically what you're saying is that, no matter how many games we lose this season (or who against), they will have no right to moan as we lost to Stevenage a few years back. No I'm not. I'm saying that anybody who witnessed that performance will know what a disgraceful result is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 That's one of jto favourite lines that Infact he's said it to you a few times he's even said it to Neil before The line from my post or his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The line from my post or his?His Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Dunno what line this is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themaskedowl Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Visionary and inspiring. Brings a lump to my throat and makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. 2 games in and the site is fragmenting into a bizarre world of randomness. Imagine another defeat on Saturday. How odd. It brought a lump to the back of my neck and made hairs in my throat stand up. Seriously, I'm still positive JTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now