Guest Sheff Owl Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Alan Biggs â€@AlanBiggs1 Pick the bones out of that - Dave Jones certainly did. Said dropped Llera because "costing me too many goals" & threatened more changes. Well we have conceded 2 goals in every game bar Fulham and the only constants are Beevers and Kirkland...wonder if he will change these? I'm not sure it's fair just to pick out Llera tho like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Well he's been proven right tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest intercity0wl Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Alan Biggs â€@AlanBiggs1 Pick the bones out of that - Dave Jones certainly did. Said dropped Llera because "costing me too many goals" & threatened more changes. Well we have conceded 2 goals in every game bar Fulham and the only constants are Beevers and Kirkland...wonder if he will change these? I'm not sure it's fair just to pick out Llera tho like that. Just one of his many baffling team selections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bedders Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Bizarre..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 DJ is definately ruthless I'll give him that! Look at Ryan Lowe for example. And now it seems like he might start phasing Llera and even Semedo out. Think his ruthlessness might cost us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Harsh. No need to slam a good servant to the club in such a public fashion. Not a great way of fostering a team spirit in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Harsh. No need to slam a good servant to the club in such a public fashion. Not a great way of fostering a team spirit in my humble opinion. Agreed. Llera has given everything for this club and doesn't deserve to be publicly slated. The idea that our defensive woes are soley down to him is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Agreed. Llera has given everything for this club and doesn't deserve to be publicly slated. The idea that our defensive woes are soley down to him is ridiculous. DJ would do well to remember who played a pivotal role in securing our promotion last season during the start of his tenure with us. Llera bagged the decisive goal in two or three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Dave Jones was critical of many players tonight He didnt' hold back in the press conference - said it how it was/is Also said that the players AND HIMSELF can and will take criticism in the press etc He then also went on to say that he is working with a FANTASTIC group of players, and that the danger is that we are going to forget all the good things about them if everyone focuses just on the negatives and the risk with that is that it then becomes a hard slog with players thinking negatives. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneTheOwl Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Seriously Beevers is shuffle, he has not got an ounce of a football brain in his big stupid body. Had far too many chances at S6, he IS the weak link trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) It's fine behind closed doors telling players but in public and just one of them is wrong. Like i said Beevers and Kirkland then next? Edited September 19, 2012 by Sheff Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I don't think that DJ is coming across terribly well at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It's fine behind closed doors telling players but in public and just one of them is wrong. It wasn't just one of them ?? He criticised a number of players Then went on to say how the buck starts with himself and his training staff And also went on to say how brilliant the squad of players are that he has Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 DJ is definately ruthless I'll give him that! Look at Ryan Lowe for example. And now it seems like he might start phasing Llera and even Semedo out. Think his ruthlessness might cost us though. this Harsh. No need to slam a good servant to the club in such a public fashion. Not a great way of fostering a team spirit in my humble opinion. this Agreed. Llera has given everything for this club and doesn't deserve to be publicly slated. The idea that our defensive woes are soley down to him is ridiculous. this DJ would do well to remember who played a pivotal role in securing our promotion last season during the start of his tenure with us. Llera bagged the decisive goal in two or three games. and this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Dave Jones was critical of many players tonight He didnt' hold back in the press conference - said it how it was/is Also said that the players AND HIMSELF can and will take criticism in the press etc He then also went on to say that he is working with a FANTASTIC group of players, and that the danger is that we are going to forget all the good things about them if everyone focuses just on the negatives and the risk with that is that it then becomes a hard slog with players thinking negatives. If they are fantastic then why does he feel the need to publicly slate individuals to the press? Especially ones who have provided crucial goals and been all and out good servents to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 If they are fantastic then why does he feel the need to publicly slate individuals to the press? Especially ones who have provided crucial goals and been all and out good servents to the club. He wasn't slating Llera He was stating why he'd not started tonight Especially ones who have provided crucial goals and been all and out good servents to the club. Apparantly (read the Madine thread for examples) that doesn't matter Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I wouldn't mind seeing Llera given a game in the Semedo role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) How the flip COG and Llera were on the bench was beyond me. Mattock who I don't have a problem with as he did his best but was woefully exposed playing on his wrong side. That said he couldn't even make a three yard pass with his right. Bothroyd was utter dogshiit. Sorry, I wanted to be impressed but there you go. Taylor looks to have something about him but erratic tonight. Madine I like, but if he keeps going over as frequently as he does he will end up with a Cauliflower ar5e...! . Edited September 19, 2012 by 33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It wasn't just one of them ?? He criticised a number of players Then went on to say how the buck starts with himself and his training staff And also went on to say how brilliant the squad of players are that he has Well he has just picked out Llera there is that fair? Not seen any other names mentioned or have i missed something? I know he said about Keiran Lee but he hasn't started a game so obviously not ready/up to it yet. Not seen him mention anything about Beevers and like i said he has been a constant through the goals being conceded. Has taking Llera out proven a point tho tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I know there is "no sentiment in football", but this has probably annoyed me nearly as much as the result tonight. Llera just comes always comes across as a really good, genuine and honest bloke who gives his absolute all to the cause. He might not be up to it at Championship standard, time will tell - but I don't agree with publicly slating players and fail to see how it can be anything but a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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