Sheffield Football Teams Branded "Despicable"...

[Binky Griptite]

4 hours ago, Big Malc said:

This is a very good point

 

Who reffed it?

 

Someone we know through football and who has a decent grasp of the rules...

 

We actually have an ex player who i work with, who is a mate to many of us and who has ref qualifications... He's always happy to be out of the house socialising.

[Big Malc]

37 minutes ago, Binky Griptite said:

 

Someone we know through football and who has a decent grasp of the rules...

 

We actually have an ex player who i work with, who is a mate to many of us and who has ref qualifications... He's always happy to be out of the house socialising.

So no league game took place, a group of blokes who know each other had a kick about with another group of blokes who know each other, and a bloke who isn’t an FA qualified ref kept order.

 

Sounds like there’s nothing to see here.

[markg]

3 minutes ago, Big Malc said:

So no league game took place, a group of blokes who know each other had a kick about with another group of blokes who know each other, and a bloke who isn’t an FA qualified ref kept order.

 

Sounds like there’s nothing to see here.

There wouldn’t have been anything to see if they weren’t tweeting about how the other team just happened to turn up with their kit etc.. like I say, I don’t blame them for having a kick about but the tweeting and revelling in what they were doing was classless

[vulva]

Problem is, rules are rules. You can’t have teams doing what they want, when they want, otherwise the leagues just descend into a farce. If you don’t like the rules join a different league. And these rules are voted in by the clubs themselves. 
 

Leagues love dishing out fines and this is an easy one for them I’m afraid. 
 

On reflection I think football should have carried on last weekend, but this weekend should have seen blanket cancellations. Lots of pro games are off anyway due to policing issues. I’m in London atm and the place is heaving. 

[Binky Griptite]

16 minutes ago, vulva said:

Problem is, rules are rules. You can’t have teams doing what they want, when they want, otherwise the leagues just descend into a farce. If you don’t like the rules join a different league. And these rules are voted in by the clubs themselves. 
 

Leagues love dishing out fines and this is an easy one for them I’m afraid. 
 

On reflection I think football should have carried on last weekend, but this weekend should have seen blanket cancellations. Lots of pro games are off anyway due to policing issues. I’m in London atm and the place is heaving. 

 

I think it sets a dangerous standard of what a league can dictate... I can understand professional footballers being "owned" by their club and in turn by the League.

 

However, at grassroots is it right that the league say "ah, that group of mates are recognisable as being 11 of 24 players registered under our league as playing for Sheffield International therefore they cannot play football unless we say so"?

 

The bulk of us were mates first (who played five a side), then joined the league, met more people and made more mates. We didn't realise we were signing away our freedom to play football as mates.

 

Will happily take a fine at this point, pay it, then appeal to the full extent of what's available.

[Binky Griptite]

1 minute ago, Binky Griptite said:

 

I think it sets a dangerous standard of what a league can dictate... I can understand professional footballers being "owned" by their club and in turn by the League.

 

However, at grassroots is it right that the league say "ah, that group of mates are recognisable as being 11 of 24 players registered under our league as playing for Sheffield International therefore they cannot play football unless we say so"?

 

The bulk of us were mates first (who played five a side), then joined the league, met more people and made more mates. We didn't realise we were signing away our freedom to play football as mates.

 

Will happily take a fine at this point, pay it, then appeal to the full extent of what's available.

 

My work obviously has a code of conduct that we're expected to stick to. If i'd played football with a bunch of people i met riding a desk at work would work also be able to brand us "despicable"?

[vulva]

6 minutes ago, Binky Griptite said:

 

I think it sets a dangerous standard of what a league can dictate... I can understand professional footballers being "owned" by their club and in turn by the League.

 

However, at grassroots is it right that the league say "ah, that group of mates are recognisable as being 11 of 24 players registered under our league as playing for Sheffield International therefore they cannot play football unless we say so"?

 

The bulk of us were mates first (who played five a side), then joined the league, met more people and made more mates. We didn't realise we were signing away our freedom to play football as mates.

 

Will happily take a fine at this point, pay it, then appeal to the full extent of what's available.

I’m not having a dig, at all, and trust me I find the rules a real pain. Junior football is hard work and getting 9 kids on a pitch playing football is a bind at times. But, the guidance on this one was clear, whether you agree with it or not. And the cause hasn’t been helped by the Twitter stuff etc. 
 

 

[Buck Rogers]

Best bit of advice I've ever actually listened to and remembered is to 'never type anything electronically that you don't want the whole world to see'.

Seen a fair few emails slagging someone or some department off get carelessly copied in to the wrong people over the years.

Always stop to think and read back before pressing the 'send' button.

[markg]

11 minutes ago, Binky Griptite said:

 

My work obviously has a code of conduct that we're expected to stick to. If i'd played football with a bunch of people i met riding a desk at work would work also be able to brand us "despicable"?

My work place probably wouldn’t have been happy with the tweeting element of it and the showing off about breaking the rules due to the bad publicity

[Binky Griptite]

1 minute ago, Buck Rogers said:

Best bit of advice I've ever actually listened to and remembered is to 'never type anything electronically that you don't want the whole world to see'.

Seen a fair few emails slagging someone or some department off get carelessly copied in to the wrong people over the years.

Always stop to think and read back before pressing the 'send' button.

 

Good advice, however I don't think the lad who tweeted was ashamed of what he tweeted, nor did he think he was doing anything wrong or had anything to hide. And i agree with him.

 

As you say, careless emails cause undue distress, sometimes when they're just outright ride but other times when they're just taken out of context... Think of a private email disagreeing with something that then gets forwarded to the a whole company by third parties... The moan wasn't intended for a wide audience and the original moaner is not responsible for the fact that so many people ultimately saw it, and thus changing the context, other than there being a general risk it went further than intended.

 

 

[Binky Griptite]

5 minutes ago, markg said:

My work place probably wouldn’t have been happy with the tweeting element of it and the showing off about breaking the rules due to the bad publicity

 

But no rules were broken... There was no directive that mates couldn't play football, just that FA affiliated games couldn't take place (but training was fine)

[markg]

Just now, Binky Griptite said:

 

But no rules were broken... There was no directive that mates couldn't play football, just that FA affiliated games couldn't take place (but training was fine)

I agree with you, and don’t think you did anything wrong in playing really. My point was around the tweeting and almost gloating about it. That was never going to go down well at the moment 

[Binky Griptite]

1 minute ago, Binky Griptite said:

 

But no rules were broken... There was no directive that mates couldn't play football, just that FA affiliated games couldn't take place (but training was fine)

 

At school you undertake mock exams under exam conditions - these don't count as actual exams.

 

In work you might undertake mock interviews under interview conditions - these don't count as actual interviews.

 

In your spare time you might train at football under match conditions - these don't count as actual matches.

[Kopparberg]

Them using the words ‘despicable’ is not on IMO… these FA people seem to love the ‘power’ etc… it’s one of the many things that put me off playing Sunday league football. 
 

Only professional sport should’ve been cancelled If necessary, as that’s the pinnacle of the game (and for policing reasons etc). 
 

Some blokes playing a friendly isn’t making any difference to the Queen. 
 

I think the Tweets have probably been the problem, the league will love to show what they can do about it… but also like Vulva says, if you don’t like it leave the League…. What does the league do? (Genuine question) 

 

Also - the Star say there was a fight

 

who would’ve thought it 

 

[Binky Griptite]

Just now, Kopparberg said:

Also - the Star say there was a fight

 

who would’ve thought it 

 

 

Yeah, i missed the whole thing... Handbags over someone not passing to someone else (again), words spoken... Escalation... Left the WhatsApp group... Never bothered to go to the pub after footy, never went on a night out... Seeya.

 

[markg]

12 minutes ago, Binky Griptite said:

 

At school you undertake mock exams under exam conditions - these don't count as actual exams.

 

In work you might undertake mock interviews under interview conditions - these don't count as actual interviews.

 

In your spare time you might train at football under match conditions - these don't count as actual matches.

And if you tweeted, taking the pee out of the work place?

[Binky Griptite]

2 minutes ago, markg said:

And if you tweeted, taking the pee out of the work place?

 

That'd not be good, however in effect what we've done is said

 

"our workplace was going to allow us to do mock interviews on site with an internal qualified interviewer after working hours but have now said we can't... So instead we'll be undertaking our own mock interviews in our own time and not in the office"

 

Has work got a leg to stand on in complaining about that?

[markowl]

27 minutes ago, Binky Griptite said:

 

Yeah, i missed the whole thing... Handbags over someone not passing to someone else (again), words spoken... Escalation... Left the WhatsApp group... Never bothered to go to the pub after footy, never went on a night out... Seeya.

 

Bit of an overreaction to a kickabout 

[Binky Griptite]

1 minute ago, markowl said:

Bit of an overreaction to a kickabout 

 

No actual punches thrown, barely even a shove. One lad willing to forget about it after the heat of the moment, the other happy to walk away forever as, in his words, "I've got other mates i can play football with".

[markg]

24 minutes ago, Binky Griptite said:

 

That'd not be good, however in effect what we've done is said

 

"our workplace was going to allow us to do mock interviews on site with an internal qualified interviewer after working hours but have now said we can't... So instead we'll be undertaking our own mock interviews in our own time and not in the office"

 

Has work got a leg to stand on in complaining about that?

If it bought negative PR and impacted on their reputation then potentially yes