Guest Willow Owl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 14 hours ago, McRightSide said: People are really forgetting how clangtastic Wildsmith is Do yourselves a favour - don’t ever research who makes the most major errors out of our three keepers How many mistakes has Wildsmith made since being brought back in that have resulted in goals? 4 full games the other 75 mins, 3 clean sheets, 2 goals conceded, No mistakes. Sponge Bob Flannel hands ( Westwood) 1 full game, 1 mistake. The other he comes off injured after 15-20 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: It is a good save. The ball is low, quick and going opposite to the momentum of Wildsmith, through a group of people. Some keepers are a bit precious about making a save with their feet, as if some great shame will overcome them, but because of that save, we gained a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Willow Owl said: How many mistakes has Wildsmith made since being brought back in that have resulted in goals? 4 full games the other 75 mins, 3 clean sheets, 2 goals conceded, No mistakes. Sponge Bob Flannel hands ( Westwood) 1 full game, 1 mistake. The other he comes off injured after 15-20 mins. I prefer to look at performance as a whole, not just whether or not mistakes result in goals. Wildsmith has been lucky not to concede through the errors he's made. Poor kick, dropped header, bottled a 1on1 and saved by Boerner, poor throw outs etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, McRightSide said: I prefer to look at performance as a whole, not just whether or not mistakes result in goals. Wildsmith has been lucky not to concede through the errors he's made. Poor kick, dropped header, bottled a 1on1 and saved by Boerner, poor throw outs etc etc If three clean sheets in five games is lucky, then long may the so called luck continue. To be honest, those examples are very lame. What was your assessment of Westwood at Preston ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Willow Owl said: If three clean sheets in five games is lucky, then long may the so called luck continue. To be honest, those examples are very lame. What was your assessment of Westwood at Preston ? Good apart from his 1 mistake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Joe Wildsmith and Cameron Dawson are 2/3 years older than the likes of Dean Henderson & Aaron Ramsdale. Even Jordan Pickford is only 1.5 years older than them both, he was playing in a world cup at their age. They're not kids anymore and I really hope one of them (Wildsmith at the minute) graps their opportunity and kicks on now, because otherwise were going to need a new number 1 next season. Really feel its now or never and hope we don't look back in a few years and wonder what could have been with them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 hours ago, WhiteOwl91 said: Thought it was fairly basic myself. Astonishing saves surely more applicable to (in the interest of fairness to all parties here...) Westwood v Leeds, Dawson v Swansea and Wildsmith v ThemLot They are spectacular saves...Dawson doesn’t make this save, Westwood might if his reactions are still super sharp. It come through Paterson a few feet in front of him and he can’t see it...rapid reactions...astonishing if you’ve ever played in goal...watch Paterson’s reaction to it (twice)...he knows how good it is...just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 13 hours ago, McRightSide said: It was an average pace shot Straight at his foot That he kicked away And you think that neither of our other keepers would have been able to deal with that? Well Westwood is finished and Dawson isn't as good with his feet as Wildsmith. So yeah, I don't think either would have saved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, McRightSide said: Good apart from his 1 mistake. 'Good' as in kicked it long every time to nobody and it comes straight back at us...the main reason he was dropped was because he refused to play short. He flaps with the ball at his feet and his distribution is awful...seriously try to watch them both impartially but when you watch, also take a look at the shape of the players in front of both keepers. The players know what they are getting with Wildsmith and we have a much better shape. Two quite similar opponents: OWLS v Millwall 61% possession 7 shots on target (0-0) Preston v OWLS 26% possession 0 shots on target (1-0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, toooldforthis said: 'Good' as in kicked it long every time to nobody and it comes straight back at us...the main reason he was dropped was because he refused to play short. He flaps with the ball at his feet and his distribution is awful...seriously try to watch them both impartially but when you watch, also take a look at the shape of the players in front of both keepers. The players know what they are getting with Wildsmith and we have a much better shape. Two quite similar opponents: OWLS v Millwall 61% possession 7 shots on target (0-0) Preston v OWLS 26% possession 0 shots on target (1-0) Wildsmith has shocking kicking technique. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toooldforthis Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Wildsmith has shocking kicking technique. No he doesn’t he can play out of goal...I’ve seen him many times. He doesn’t have a real target man. He has to play it wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Not knocking Wildsmith but anyone that thinks that the save with his feet was fantastic and that Dawson and Westwood wouldn't have been able to make it need to give their heads a wobble Jesus fecking christ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 We have three keepers who's "Bad Form" can be measured in years....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, toooldforthis said: No he doesn’t he can play out of goal...I’ve seen him many times. He doesn’t have a real target man. He has to play it wide Wildsmith's kicking when having to hit it first time can be very suspect, his long kicking when he has time is good but as you say he has nothing to aim for currently. His short distribution, throw outs are not good at all. None of our keepers would be sought after for their distribution. Wildsmith was poor at the end of last season but has done little to warrant any major criticism this season and has performed well so far. Lets hope his form continues longer than Dawson's did as he also started this season well but then was at fault too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Just now, hirstyboywonder said: Edited November 30, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, toooldforthis said: 'Good' as in kicked it long every time to nobody and it comes straight back at us...the main reason he was dropped was because he refused to play short. He flaps with the ball at his feet and his distribution is awful...seriously try to watch them both impartially but when you watch, also take a look at the shape of the players in front of both keepers. The players know what they are getting with Wildsmith and we have a much better shape. Two quite similar opponents: OWLS v Millwall 61% possession 7 shots on target (0-0) Preston v OWLS 26% possession 0 shots on target (1-0) I wonder if the red card we received in the first half of the Preston game had any impact on those possession and shots stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftpeg Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 28/11/2020 at 20:38, @owlstalk said: WTF No he didnt? Gotta agree with Owlstalk here, I dont think Wildsmith looked flappy at all, it seems the gauntlet of Westwood being named as "The number 1" has motivated Joe to really focus on keeping the shirt. If that was Pulis' intention then it was a great bit of man management, if not then it is a very happy coincidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willow Owl Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, McRightSide said: Good apart from his 1 mistake. A schoolboy mistake that cost us a goal and a point. Wildsmith makes a save that stops a goal and gains us a point, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Willow Owl said: A schoolboy mistake that cost us a goal and a point. Wildsmith makes a save that stops a goal and gains us a point, Not sure what’s so difficult to understand. Westwood made a mistake and got punished, Wildsmith has made 2 or 3 major ones and hasn’t Not rocket science 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 12 hours ago, toooldforthis said: 'Good' as in kicked it long every time to nobody and it comes straight back at us...the main reason he was dropped was because he refused to play short. He flaps with the ball at his feet and his distribution is awful...seriously try to watch them both impartially but when you watch, also take a look at the shape of the players in front of both keepers. The players know what they are getting with Wildsmith and we have a much better shape. Two quite similar opponents: OWLS v Millwall 61% possession 7 shots on target (0-0) Preston v OWLS 26% possession 0 shots on target (1-0) Yeah quite similar opponents. Totally forgetting that the Preston game was away from home & with 10 men for 75 minutes. Apart from that, great comparison. Now blaming Westwood's distribution for Windass' red card and us having 0 shots/possession, whilst crediting Wildsmith for us having 7 shots on target, honestly amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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