Ronnie Starling Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 We could have had Messi and Ronaldo up front but they wouldn't score in a brothel with Bannan and Hutchinson in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 02/01/2020 at 01:30, Hack-Abusi said: Always reactive instead of proactive.... in our predicament you'd think we'd have a few deals ironed out already or loanees brought in. No doubt we'll wait till deadline day before we make a single transfer Because of him and DC, jos was only able to sign 1 player. 1 chuffing player permanently in 2 windows and 2 loanees. That is gash ... Jos was gash, the worst manager ive ever seen, negative tactics, playing with no forward , he was a complete joke mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 02/01/2020 at 07:18, 83owl said: Funny you should say 5-10 years because that’s how long it’s going to take for us to get out of the financial mess Carlos/DC left us in. Chansiri is the one thats got us in this mess, no one else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 01/01/2020 at 18:41, DJMortimer said: Interestingly enough, even though almost all of those funds were spent on attacking players, it's that aspect of our game that's the weakest now. There can be no denying whatsoever that the managers who have followed Carvalhal have been severely hampered by the reckless overspending from his first two seasons. This has led in turn to the stadium sale debacle that could make things very much worse still. Every manager in the world will spend money if its offered, if Carlos wanted money and chansiri said yes then of course hes gonna spend it, we were 90 mins away from the prem! The signing of Rhodes in hindsite was a massive mistake, but lets not forget at the time everybody on here was sponking in their pants when we signed him! We all wanted him, chansiri delivered, it didnt work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, chizumgeorge said: everybody on here was sponking in their pants when we signed him! We all wanted him, chansiri delivered, it didnt work Not everyone corky. Only the schoolboys and the computer game players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) Tactics are dictated by the players available, think Monk has also eluded to this The players have shown that they can execute a game plan to pick up points, when they want to. This group of players has shown exactly the same fragility under a succession of managers. I'm not sure what Monk could change, other than the players and I hope we can do some swift business in this transfer window to make a start rebuilding this squad. Edited January 3, 2020 by striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Lord Snooty said: Not everyone corky. Only the schoolboys and the computer game players. Give over, when we signed him absolutely no one on here said they didnt want him corky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, chizumgeorge said: Give over, when we signed him absolutely no one on here said they didnt want him corky! Well, the chap you were replying to was one of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord Snooty said: Well, the chap you were replying to was one of them! Bet you thought Abdi was brilliant aswel!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, chizumgeorge said: Bet you thought Abdi was brilliant aswel!? Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, chizumgeorge said: The signing of Rhodes in hindsite was a massive mistake, but lets not forget at the time everybody on here was sponking in their pants when we signed him! We all wanted him, chansiri delivered, it didnt work Not me. It was the very last position of the team that needed a new arrival, never mind one that came at such a huge financial cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: It was the very last position of the team that needed a new arrival, never mind one that came at such a huge financial cost. Exactly. I'd say this, as a club we should always be looking to improve the weakest position in the team, that makes infinitely more sense than attempting to upgrade another position. Let's be honest, buying a player in almost any other position made more sense...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Morepork said: Exactly. I'd say this, as a club we should always be looking to improve the weakest position in the team, that makes infinitely more sense than attempting to upgrade another position. Let's be honest, buying a player in almost any other position made more sense...... Signing a 20 goals a season forward in this division gets you in the top 6, thats what Rhodes was at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, chizumgeorge said: Signing a 20 goals a season forward in this division gets you in the top 6, thats what Rhodes was at the time Not as simple as that. As one look at the way we played at the and the way Rhodes plays would have told anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Not as simple as that. As one look at the way we played at the and the way Rhodes plays would have told anyone I think it is. Forwards are judged on goals scored, irrespective of their style of play. If any forward had the record Rhodes had, which was second to none , you would want to sign him surely? Or would you rather play Nuhiu who scores every 20 games but works hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, chizumgeorge said: Signing a 20 goals a season forward in this division gets you in the top 6, thats what Rhodes was at the time If only the decision was as binary as that. We bought Rhodes when a central defender had been a priority for an age, not to mention the wide defensive positions. Also, I think if we'd bought a forward that had scored a few in the season we bought him there'd be a bit more weigh to that argument. As it was, he'd hardly played let alone scored. Edited January 3, 2020 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, chizumgeorge said: I think it is. Forwards are judged on goals scored, irrespective of their style of play. If any forward had the record Rhodes had, which was second to none , you would want to sign him surely? Or would you rather play Nuhiu who scores every 20 games but works hard? No, I'd want to loan someone like Tammy Abraham who scores, goals, is capable of creating things for himself, but also has good hold up play ,is capable working the channels and has the pace to make him a threat on the counter attack as well as when we're in possession. Which I said a while before when we were in need of a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I got really carried away with the money we were throwing about.. then spent 2 years trying to justify the mistakes because I didn't want to look more of a berk than I actually am.. It's called denial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: No, I'd want to loan someone like Tammy Abraham who scores, goals, is capable of creating things for himself, but also has good hold up play ,is capable working the channels and has the pace to make him a threat on the counter attack as well as when we're in possession. Which I said a while before when we were in need of a striker. But Abraham wasnt even an option, i’d like to loan harry kane but again its not an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 01/01/2020 at 17:03, WelshOwl74 said: Nuhiu starting Bannan and Hutchinson in midfield Always gonna get same results Monk needs to learn very quickly Its failed for 5 year ,not gonna start working now Not just tactics, Monk has alluded to the fact we can’t play at an high enough tempo to be successful in the championship. It’s a problem we have had since Carlos. It’s why even when we win, we only seem to have one good half. This is why a big shake up is needed more than anything else. We have a one paced squad by and large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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