Salmonbones Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) On 28/11/2019 at 18:40, Mycroft said: Cause hes only had one to choose from No one can say that is true at all. He's played two, given another nothing but cameo's until the last game and two have been frozen out without really been given a chance. Hardly "only had one to choose from" Edited December 1, 2019 by Salmonbones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 On 28/11/2019 at 20:48, Maddogbob said: Think all we can realistically hope for is to start building for next year. Trouble is, (mellow drama alert) can we be sure, with the efl apocalypse haging over us that we will retain our championship status. Will we be embargoed again? Will we be made an example of? So will dc keep his hands in his pocket? Can we shift anyone? My opinion would be to try and find a gem or two from league 1 or 2, at least draw a line under stuff and start again. However can we? Or are we not allowed or will DC wait and see? Last time we did that was Chris Bart Williams, and most who post on here these days can't even remember him. What are the chances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 27/11/2019 at 22:39, S72 Owl said: Think it’s a must in January. This team is still crying out for someone with a bit of pace that can get in behind the defence and finish. Sell Rhodes and Winnall and bring in someone, no idea who, could be a kid from a premier league team, just someone with pace please that can play off Fletcher. Very few goals scored directly from quick strikers in this division. I think we need 2 quality fast full backs to provide fletch and atdhe. Strikers with good stats cost too much. Tenacious youth is better value for money. A loan signing for central middle is needed as 2nd half of season is not hutch or lee yet best time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: Very few goals scored directly from quick strikers in this division. I think we need 2 quality fast full backs to provide fletch and atdhe. Strikers with good stats cost too much. Tenacious youth is better value for money. A loan signing for central middle is needed as 2nd half of season is not hutch or lee yet best time Not sure about that, we will continue to struggle if our main source of goals, is looking for the head of Fletcher, or Nuhiu It’s a useful tool, but we need more in our armoury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 14 hours ago, hirstys_achilles said: Very few goals scored directly from quick strikers in this division. I think we need 2 quality fast full backs to provide fletch and atdhe. Strikers with good stats cost too much. Tenacious youth is better value for money. A loan signing for central middle is needed as 2nd half of season is not hutch or lee yet best time A quick striker would completely change the dynamic of our team. At the moment we’re a bit predictable, which is why we can’t beat the better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 7 hours ago, S72 Owl said: A quick striker would completely change the dynamic of our team. At the moment we’re a bit predictable, which is why we can’t beat the better teams. It would agreed. But a mitrovic or similar is expensive and requires a lot of tactics to get the best out of. Mid season promotion push is not ideal time. I think it's to much to wish for until we have no ffp or get promoted. If we lose hutch and Lee which is likely at some point due to injury or suspension the centre mid is devoid of a holding player as joey not really what monk requires. If Palmer or fox out. Replacing them is making more change moving position for cover from their preferred positions. Weakening team in both areas. We still have no pace at full back when iorfa at ch. Means 3 at the back is out of the question as fox or Palmer are not wing backs and cover is not quick or experienced. Moses is yet to win me over. I think he will settle. Just not as quick as we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 21 hours ago, gurujuan said: Not sure about that, we will continue to struggle if our main source of goals, is looking for the head of Fletcher, or Nuhiu It’s a useful tool, but we need more in our armoury The midfield and Harris needs to score more. We need a rhodes type player in Huddersfield form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 17:51, Salmonbones said: Last time we did that was Chris Bart Williams, and most who post on here these days can't even remember him. What are the chances? Future England captain bart Williams. 18 years old and held a place in a good swfc midfield and never got any better. Until forest bought him when we thought we had the best from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 17:51, Salmonbones said: Last time we did that was Chris Bart Williams, and most who post on here these days can't even remember him. What are the chances? Bart man now coaching in his own academy for women in florida last i heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 On 28/11/2019 at 17:07, 4evaowl said: Both havent done enough to start but my point was that I wouldn't give a manager money to spend on another striker when he only plays one striker. Dont get the logic of this at all. Would selling a striker then qualify for funds for a new striker. Surely a loan striker is more important to have a better quality player as the sole responsibility of movement and holding the ball and making runs is his. In my opinion a solo striker is a more important to play a quality player there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Rhodes and winnall need games and neither are knocking on the door with form that warrants a place in front of Fletcher or nuhui. I think Harris would get the nod if both nuhui and Fletcher are unavailable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, hirstys_achilles said: It would agreed. But a mitrovic or similar is expensive and requires a lot of tactics to get the best out of. Mid season promotion push is not ideal time. I think it's to much to wish for until we have no ffp or get promoted. If we lose hutch and Lee which is likely at some point due to injury or suspension the centre mid is devoid of a holding player as joey not really what monk requires. If Palmer or fox out. Replacing them is making more change moving position for cover from their preferred positions. Weakening team in both areas. We still have no pace at full back when iorfa at ch. Means 3 at the back is out of the question as fox or Palmer are not wing backs and cover is not quick or experienced. Moses is yet to win me over. I think he will settle. Just not as quick as we need. Mitrovic makes Nuhui look fast. A young fast striker on loan from a prem club could do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, hirstys_achilles said: Dont get the logic of this at all. Would selling a striker then qualify for funds for a new striker. Surely a loan striker is more important to have a better quality player as the sole responsibility of movement and holding the ball and making runs is his. In my opinion a solo striker is a more important to play a quality player there Yeah, I’d be pairing them in U23 games, keeping them fit, getting them scoring again, even if it only puts them in the shop window for January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Rhodes may as well go now.... all he's good for is a store santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17tjp Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I still think we need to look to lower leagues to get a proven goal scorer. swindon have Doyle on loan (from Bradford) and he’s scored about 20 this season. admittedly he’s 31 and not the young hungry pacey chap we need, but there’s players out there who have scored more than all our attackers put together. ..... and he’d be cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew6666 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 We need to widen our scouting network and look to theforeign leagues, such as the Bundesliga like we did with Borner. Look for some foreign bargains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, j17tjp said: I still think we need to look to lower leagues to get a proven goal scorer. swindon have Doyle on loan (from Bradford) and he’s scored about 20 this season. admittedly he’s 31 and not the young hungry pacey chap we need, but there’s players out there who have scored more than all our attackers put together. ..... and he’d be cheap Wouldn’t we be making the same mistakes as we did with Rhodes and Winnall, bringing in players who don’t have the ability to take us where we want to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, quinnssweetshop said: Rhodes may as well go now.... all he's good for is a store santa. I am not sure about that. Hope his santa impression is better than his footballer impression. Ouch!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, S72 Owl said: Mitrovic makes Nuhui look fast. A young fast striker on loan from a prem club could do the job. That's my point. Few goals are from direct pacy strikers in this league. Proven goal scorers like mitrovic are gold dust. They also not necessarily quick. But on Nuhiu he was red hot end of 16 / 17 season under jos. If monk can get that form out of him it would solve a big problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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