dorian gray Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, McRightSide said: what’s your point? i'm not surprised you claim not to be able to see my point whilst all others will, you don't want to see it, your eyes appear as closed as your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, dorian gray said: i'm not surprised you claim not to be able to see my point whilst all others will, you don't want to see it, your eyes appear as closed as your mind. Im so confused. Are you saying allegations of racist language shouldn’t be investigated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachyderm Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 He's in a band!?! Cool! What kind of music does they play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 14/11/2019 at 11:07, McRightSide said: So investigating a report of someone allegedly using the N-word on a football pitch is ‘trivial’ Shameful. 23 minutes ago, McRightSide said: what’s your point? 4 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Im so confused. Are you saying allegations of racist language shouldn’t be investigated? of course not, they were investigated to their fullest extent by a court of law of this land, had either party not liked the judgement there is the right of appeal. so with a court of law finding the case 'not proven' after investigation, why would you say 'are you saying allegations of racist language shouldn't be investigated?'? when it obvious they have already been investigated. my highlighting of 'allegedly' in your post of 14/11/19 @ 11:07 merely highlights the fact that it was 'alleged' and not or never proven in a court of law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 14/11/2019 at 13:43, mrrodge said: Silva's tweet was not racist at all. Had it been the other way around and Mendy had compared Silva to a white cartoon character nothing would have been said at all. But that’s not what happened is it. The white guy took the wee wee out of true black guy and got punish. Perhaps the black guy would better understand the absolute no go of the post due to having a bit more awareness of racial matters 12 hours ago, coopswfc76 said: I thought Casilla allegedly said mark or pick up the black guy? If so then cant see any issue at all how ever if he used the N word then i can see why he's being investigated. Objectifying one person by the colour of their skin is casual racism. Bielsa will do forensic analysis on players so they know the names players use ‘left shoulder / right shoulder’ commands to direct players numbers are on shirts and shorts no-one would dream of saying ‘pick up the white guy’...so why single out the black guy. ZERO reason to say ‘pick up the black guy’ casual racism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, dorian gray said: of course not, they were investigated to their fullest extent by a court of law of this land, had either party not liked the judgement there is the right of appeal. so with a court of law finding the case 'not proven' after investigation, why would you say 'are you saying allegations of racist language shouldn't be investigated?'? when it obvious they have already been investigated. my highlighting of 'allegedly' in your post of 14/11/19 @ 11:07 merely highlights the fact that it was 'alleged' and not or never proven in a court of law. could you direct me to the coverage of the court case of the Casilla case please? I must have missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I get called a white guy lots and I’ve never felt victimised or offended by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, McRightSide said: could you direct me to the coverage of the court case of the Casilla case please? I must have missed it. is that forestieri's first name?, I thought it was Fernando? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, dorian gray said: is that forestieri's first name?, I thought it was Fernando? Try reading. I wasn’t talking about FF at any point. So ironic that you were the one saying my mind was as closed as my eyes... I’ll await your apology, but I won’t hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, horny owl said: I get called a white guy lots and I’ve never felt victimised or offended by it. I would imagine that’s because your just glad they aren’t calling you by your full name, Charlotte Edit. Serious point, always amusing white people decide what black people should or shouldn’t be offended by Edited November 16, 2019 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, McRightSide said: Try reading. I wasn’t talking about FF at any point. So ironic that you were the one saying my mind was as closed as my eyes... I’ll await your apology, but I won’t hold my breath. no please, do hold your breath, go for 6 minutes to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, dorian gray said: no please, do hold your breath, go for 6 minutes to start with. Apology accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, McRightSide said: Apology accepted. 1 minute ago, dorian gray said: no please, do hold your breath, go for 6 minutes to start with. have you started yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, dorian gray said: have you started yet? Finished already. What will you do next to deflect from your inability to read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, McRightSide said: I would imagine that’s because your just glad they aren’t calling you by your full name, Charlotte Edit. Serious point, always amusing white people decide what black people should or shouldn’t be offended by As a victim of a racial attack many years ago I’m still not offended by being called a white guy I don’t decide if black people are offended or not I live my life and I don’t care what colour you are if you wrong me you’ll get the same treatment (not you personally of course) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, dorian gray said: I have 'suffered racist abuse, and profiling' and I agree with the people of this country discussing what is and isn't racist in their individual opinion. it is the suppression of the people's will, that leads to anger, and the british only bottle things up for so long. Oh absolutely, *discussion* is essential! I just feel some people forget that a discussion involves listening as well as talking. Sorry you’ve had to deal with that, it’s rotten and there’s no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: But that’s not what happened is it. The white guy took the wee wee out of true black guy and got punish. Perhaps the black guy would better understand the absolute no go of the post due to having a bit more awareness of racial matters Objectifying one person by the colour of their skin is casual racism. Bielsa will do forensic analysis on players so they know the names players use ‘left shoulder / right shoulder’ commands to direct players numbers are on shirts and shorts no-one would dream of saying ‘pick up the white guy’...so why single out the black guy. ZERO reason to say ‘pick up the black guy’ casual racism. Shut up ffs 1 black person in box/attacking your going to have a moment to remember what bielsa told you rather than shout the obvious pick the black guy up potentially making it a split second later and leading to a goal/chance that truly is the world going made. On earlier post are you trying to tell Mendy he should be offended at a joke from a mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, coopswfc76 said: Shut up ffs 1 black person in box/attacking your going to have a moment to remember what bielsa told you rather than shout the obvious pick the black guy up potentially making it a split second later and leading to a goal/chance that truly is the world going made. On earlier post are you trying to tell Mendy he should be offended at a joke from a mate Couple of questions. What about all the other non-casually racist ways of warning your teammates about there whereabouts of an opposing player? I mentioned a few examples, but you only chose to acknowledge one. How many of the 4 black players that Charlton had on the pitch were in the box at that moment in time? The fact people don’t understand that it’s simply not ok to call people out based on the colour of their skin - and actually argue against that - shows just how far we have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, horny owl said: I get called a white guy lots and I’ve never felt victimised or offended by it. I hear you are pretty fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 hours ago, McRightSide said: Finished already. What will you do next to deflect from your inability to read? try holding it for an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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