Costello 77 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 12 hours ago, nile said: Let's praise the team for another half hearted gutless performance. Who's praising the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: Soon will be with CC Have you written your closely reasoned argument? No. Just lazy boring sniping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Have you written your closely reasoned argument? No. Just lazy boring sniping. Keep clapping and negging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, mrbluesky said: Keep clapping and negging Another four word post. I expect that's your limit. Put up a post that lays out your feelings about where everything's gone wrong and illustrate it with some detail. Or keep riding the back of other posters like the the infantile lazy shcit you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Another four word post. I expect that's your limit. Put up a post that lays out your feelings about where everything's gone wrong and illustrate it with some detail. Or keep riding the back of other posters like the the infantile lazy shcit you are? Don`t grow up,it`s a trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: Don`t grow up,it`s a trap. You can't do it. Can you? You can't actually put it together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD2OWL Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Love it when a numpty starts a new thread and instantly contradicts himself. We had no right to expect to win under Irvine. We have every right to expect to Win these days ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 minute ago, BD2OWL said: Love it when a numpty starts a new thread and instantly contradicts himself. We had no right to expect to win under Irvine. We have every right to expect to Win these days ... Nah m8 ur a numpty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nile Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 43 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Who's praising the team? Im questioning last nights effort and attitude, what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, nile said: Im questioning last nights effort and attitude, what's your point? Let's praise the team for another half hearted and gutless performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 9 hours ago, s110wl said: The problem I have with the 'Carlos out' brigade is simply that in my opinion it is entirely counter productive and has lost a reasonable degree of perspective. All it does is add more pressure to an already highly pressurised situation which is hugely frustrating. There is one man and one man only who will decide who our manager is - DC. I understand the frustrations to a certain extent; and don't particularly criticise people for voicing the below: - recruitment should have been better over the last 18 months - I agree we haven't strengthened areas where we needed to and have spent a lot of money on players that don't always get on the pitch - we missed a huge chance in the playoffs last year (although I don't really disagree with the tactics Carlos employed and we were 15 mins away from the perfect 2-leg playoff performance / only missed out on penalties) - we start far too slowly in most games and occasionally only seem to get going when we are behind. Yesterday being a classic example of this (and I agree being 3 down to Bolton is entirely unacceptable - having said that; after seeing the highlights, you do have to wonder how the hell we did actually manage to lose...) However, there are still big positives that we need to hang on to, and it does feel that some are massively over reacting and have lost vital perspective when discussing our progress / Carlos' ability: - we have performed fantastically over the last two seasons, so much so that the expectation levels both last year and this year are higher than I can ever remember them; - we still have a gifted squad with lots of excellent players; for my money they are clearly still behind Carlos and I don't see any signs really of people disrespecting the shirt / not playing for the manager. - for the most part, we are a bloody difficult team to beat - Saturday against Fulham was a great example of this; - we're only 5 games into the season and have more points in the league than at this point in either of the last two campaigns; - we have some winnable games coming up which will hopefully see us start to climb the table and get back in and around the top 6. If the last two years have taught me anything, its what Carlos always says - 'a marathon, not a sprint'. History suggests we will improve as the season goes on and I have no reason to doubt this year will be the same. I'm not trying to stifle serious debate as that is clearly what this forum is for. However, calls that Carlos is a 'clown', a 'two-faced cretin', completely out of his depth, taking our team backwards, etc. are simply untrue and need to be called out for what it is. He deserves far more respect than he is currently getting from some quarters. Words fail me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 14 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: You can't do it. Can you? You can't actually put it together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nile Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Let's praise the team for another half hearted and gutless performance. And? the op slating fans for over reacting about last nights performance, we have every right to question the effort and attitude. im still baffled at what point you are making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, nile said: And? the op slating fans for over reacting about last nights performance, we have every right to question the effort and attitude. im still baffled at what point you are making? Why are you asking people to praise the team when you're slating them in the same post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: 15 minutes ago, mrbluesky said: Good age check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nile Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'm questioning the op moaning at the fact some fans are questioning the performance, we have every right too. anyone pleased with last nights efforts must be very easily pleased. were you happy with our 70 mins efforts at 3.0 down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, nile said: I'm questioning the op moaning at the fact some fans are questioning the performance, we have every right too. anyone pleased with last nights efforts must be very easily pleased. were you happy with our 70 mins efforts at 3.0 down? I only asked you who was praising the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nile Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 It was pretty clear what my response was about. like I asked above, were you pleased with the effort we showed at 3.0 down? if no, then what is your point? if yes, you are easily pleased! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, nile said: I'm questioning the op moaning at the fact some fans are questioning the performance, we have every right too. anyone pleased with last nights efforts must be very easily pleased. were you happy with our 70 mins efforts at 3.0 down? Personally I wasn't happy. Although how it was 3 0 I don't know. I do know that a lot of fans have come to a conclusion on Carlos and respond hysterically when they get something that supports their prejudice. My own view is that it isn't going to work with him this year. I don't know that, it isn't my decision anyway and I want to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I always flounce when we lose friggin hate losing,I remember my biggest flounce was in November 83 when we lost at Palace so ending our 17 match unbeaten start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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