Dick_Turpin Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 48 minutes ago, richowl said: You want to replace Hutchinson in midfield with jones? They do the same job & both sit deep. Hutchinson is far superior at doing it though. You know when Hutchinson is in midfield but jones is like the invisible man. the problems are out wide (LB,LM & RB,RM) & defensive tactics. Which of course is why teams get promoted with Jones in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 17 hours ago, Holmowl said: He isn't, and we do. Ok smart arse....even more so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Ok smart arse....even more so! My posts contain either 5 words or 500 words. I once pressed "submit" before typing anything and the post got more pluses than any of mine before or since. Do you think I should take the hint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie snerklebox Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 On 25/02/2017 at 19:20, adelphi1867 said: FFS! you taking Burton for granted, typical of Owls fans, just because they are a 'Smaller' club. Don't underestimate them. I'm absolutely dreading Burton. At home on another Tuesday night. The omens aren't good for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daavies; Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 It's a difficult one because Hutch has been the best player for us at times this season. I do also however see the point that he seems to be playing deeper than Loovens and Sasso at times leaving gaping holes in the middle of the pitch. This then usually means Wallace playing somewhere in the middle leaving huge gaps down that right hand side with no support for Jack Hunt. There were times on Saturday jack hunt got the ball down the right with 3 Leeds players surrounding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Don't understand this, few months ago we were all clamoring for Hutch in midfield to give us that bite we missed .. we put him there, he wins all the plaudits and everyone is w@nking themselves silly over him .. we have a few bad games, and people are now questioning his role in midfield, saying he should be at the back or that we as a team are struggling now he's in there and that some of you have been saying this since day one. absolute joke. the problem is the tactics we are playing to keep it tighter than a 10 year olds backside at the back and hoping all our pacey (yeah right) attacking players will create something out of nothing We played with 3 central midfielders last season, Hutch (Lopez if Hutch was injured) being one of them, and this worked for us in many a game Edited February 27, 2017 by Hack-Abusi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 So we could play 4231 with Sam as one of the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 If we're looking for someone to blame for gorgeousness, awesome hair, great abs, and midfield spunk... then yes, Hutchinson is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Hack-Abusi said: Don't understand this, few months ago we were all clamoring for Hutch in midfield to give us that bite we missed .. we put him there, he wins all the plaudits and everyone is w@nking themselves silly over him .. we have a few bad games, and people are now questioning his role in midfield, saying he should be at the back or that we as a team are struggling now he's in there and that some of you have been saying this since day one. absolute joke. the problem is the tactics we are playing to keep it tighter than a 10 year olds backside at the back and hoping all our pacey (yeah right) attacking players will create something out of nothing We played with 3 central midfielders last season, Hutch (Lopez if Hutch was injured) being one of them, and this worked for us in many a game all season the gap between the midfield and forwards has been a problem, so much so we are launching the ball to Rhodes I dont know what the answer is but do notice Hutch sits far too deep. Think this is perhaps as neither CB can ping it about so he has to do the job of 2 players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 15 hours ago, Holmowl said: My posts contain either 5 words or 500 words. I once pressed "submit" before typing anything and the post got more pluses than any of mine before or since. Do you think I should take the hint? Yes, probably!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 4 hours ago, billyblack said: So we could play 4231 with Sam as one of the 2. Cant play 1 up front. Got no-one to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 3-5-2 or 4-1-4-1 for me - dont care who's in team - just win! wawaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hack-Abusi said: Don't understand this, few months ago we were all clamoring for Hutch in midfield to give us that bite we missed .. we put him there, he wins all the plaudits and everyone is w@nking themselves silly over him .. we have a few bad games, and people are now questioning his role in midfield, saying he should be at the back or that we as a team are struggling now he's in there and that some of you have been saying this since day one. Would be nice if he played midfield.. Whenever I look for him , he's positioned himself between the two CBs... There's defensive midfielder... and there's 3 at the back .. I wouldnt consider dropping him , but he needs to play further up to let Bannan/Abdi link up with forwards rather than them coming back on defensive duty all the time. Edited February 27, 2017 by Vaughan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 15 hours ago, Hack-Abusi said: Don't understand this, few months ago we were all clamoring for Hutch in midfield to give us that bite we missed .. we put him there, he wins all the plaudits and everyone is w@nking themselves silly over him .. we have a few bad games, and people are now questioning his role in midfield, saying he should be at the back or that we as a team are struggling now he's in there and that some of you have been saying this since day one. absolute joke. the problem is the tactics we are playing to keep it tighter than a 10 year olds backside at the back and hoping all our pacey (yeah right) attacking players will create something out of nothing We played with 3 central midfielders last season, Hutch (Lopez if Hutch was injured) being one of them, and this worked for us in many a game To be fair, even when Hutchinson was getting the plaudits (and I think he still is!), many of us on here have been banging the same drum about him playing too deep, and us getting completely overrun in midfield. As has already been said more than a few times in this thread, this isn't a thread criticising Hutchinson, but the role he's been shoe horned into, which is part of a hopelessly inefficient system. Put Hutchinson in the exact same role, but in a 4-3-3, with genuine attacking wide men attacking the box, and two ball playing midfielders in front of him, then Hutchinson's performance would remain unaffected, but the rest of the team would be set up where it could utilise their strengths, without compromising the midfield control or defensive cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 On 2/25/2017 at 19:04, modboy said: Cracking player but again today we were useless in CM Time to play him at CB and become relevant in the centre of the park again imo. We are so predictable it's depressing On 2/25/2017 at 19:05, RocketOwl said: 100% Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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