Ronnie Starling Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: 1 fan whose points i took apart He tweeted we haven't played well since the 1st leg of the play offs Well that isn't true i named 4 games where we did play well so you know what whoever that Mark is he's an idiot 4 games isn't a great return for a team where you expect them to finish 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Ronnie Starling said: 4 games isn't a great return for a team where you expect them to finish 4th. I don't have any expectations, learned not to in the 45 years I've been watching them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lees Tom Cat Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: A lot of the expectation has come from the direction of the Chairman. When that happens then fans will naturally lift their own expectations. The chairman is doing his bit. Some fans are taking it for granted. The chairman wants the fans to back the team as his expectations. Edited March 13, 2017 by Lees Tom Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbster Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, TINKERBELL said: Bushy. Get thee A to Z out for league 1 Wasn't that long since they were in league 1 most of the clubs will probably have a welcome back banner for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 That last tweet is the stupidity that we are up against No matter how much Villa and Newcastle have brought in on the plus side doesnt mean they haven't spent £77m and in excess of £60m except on the balance sheet yet another idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJH1867OWLS Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Why is it that is either 0 or 100 mph now? There isn't a middle ground anymore! it's either we're awful, sack Carlos cos were not getting promoted or is stick by Carlos he should be here next season to build etc etc... heres a crazy idea... bare with me... stand by your team, players and manager until we can't/don't get promoted then wait and see what chansiri will do as he runs the club it's his money on the line so effectively his choice who stays and who goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Got to say this guy is bang on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Idiot is moving the goalposts now, because he realised he lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Lawrie Madden said: That last tweet is the stupidity that we are up against No matter how much Villa and Newcastle have brought in on the plus side doesnt mean they haven't spent £77m and in excess of £60m except on the balance sheet yet another idiot Nah. That's you if you choose to start calling fans names for expressing their views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Lees Tom Cat said: The chairman is doing his bit. Some fans are taking it for granted. The chairman wants the fans to back the team as his expectations. Spot on Like i said how many times have you read on here that Wednesday are a top two side ? Based on what ? Newcastle have kept a nucleus of their premier side and have spent £60m and we ended up 15 points behind Brighton The guy talking Hudders brought in 13 ( i think ) players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJH1867OWLS Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Did chansiri say we're GOING TO BE PROMOTED in 2 years or did he say we're GOING TO TRY and get promoted in 2 years to be up there for our 150th anniversary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Lawrie Madden said: That last tweet is the stupidity that we are up against No matter how much Villa and Newcastle have brought in on the plus side doesnt mean they haven't spent £77m and in excess of £60m except on the balance sheet yet another idiot Villas underachievement is there issue and has nothing to do with us. Our underachievement is our issue and this squad of players should be cemented in a top 6 place just as Keith Andrews stated. Huddersfield, Leeds and Reading are all above us in the league and I would argue we have better players than all of those 3. Regardless of how Villa are doing this season, with the players Carlos had at his disposal we should finish in the top 6, it's got nothing to do with what Villa are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lees Tom Cat said: The chairman is doing his bit. Some fans are taking it for granted. The chairman wants the fans to back the team as his expectations. The fans have done their bit. They turned out at Wembley in their thousands and gave fantastic vocal backing to the team acknowledged by the national press only to be rewarded with a poor performance. They bought their season tickets and have given the team great support but performances haven't matched it. So don't blame the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Bodhidharma said: Nah. That's you if you choose to start calling fans names for expressing their views. What would you call someone that decides if you spend £77m then get say £30m in for players sold that means that haven't spent £77m It means your balance sheet is down £45m not that you haven't spent £77m balance sheets don't cross the white line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Is there a more ridiculous thing that football fans say than "if you don't like it get t'Lane"? As if this is a realistic option. How on earth can Newcastle (who are very strong), Norwich (who have been as soft as anything away from home) and Villa (that have been in absolute disarray) be stronger than three clubs that got over 80 points? How is it a stronger division than last year when four teams that have spent naff all with far weaker squads than us are in the top 7? How does Villa being in disarray and Norwich making a complete mess of it mean that we have done well? The reason fans are unhappy is because everybody knew we needed a beast of a centre half and some pace and power on the wing or upfront. We have simply not addressed these issues. This season We have signed:- Kean - not good enough Pudil - not good enough Emanuelson - waste of time Fox - promising start Sasso - not good enough Abdi - rarely selected Buckley - rarely selected Jones - rarely selected McManaman - rarely selected Reach - Don't get me started Rhodes - promising start Winnall - to be decided Fletcher - rarely selected Looking at the above, is it any surprise fans are unhappy, especially when it follows on from the likes of Lachman, Matias, McGugan, Sougou and Joao. It just feels like a massive opportunity missed. The fact that the spine of the team is still based around Westwood, Lees, Loovens, Hutch and Lee says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, TrickyTrev said: Villas underachievement is there issue and has nothing to do with us. Our underachievement is our issue and this squad of players should be cemented in a top 6 place just as Keith Andrews stated. Huddersfield, Leeds and Reading are all above us in the league and I would argue we have better players than all of those 3. Regardless of how Villa are doing this season, with the players Carlos had at his disposal we should finish in the top 6, it's got nothing to do with what Villa are doing. What underachievement ? We are 6th with 9 games left The point about Villa and Newcastles spending i could also have cited Brighton strengthening was the strength of the division not the relative form of the teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lees Tom Cat Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Ronnie Starling said: The fans have done their bit. They turned out at Wembley in their thousands and gave fantastic vocal backing to the team acknowledged by the national press only to be rewarded with a poor performance. They bought their season tickets and have given the team great support but performances haven't matched it. So don't blame the fans. Yes but as already said the fans backed a worse squad last season and we made it. Top players signed because the fans was awesome. This season it's different. The fans are expecting to be top 2 or it's a disaster.thus not backing the team and moaning about how we spent money etc. We did it last season with nuihu up front. Imagine what we could do this season with the fans backing the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: Is there a more ridiculous thing that football fans say than "if you don't like it get t'Lane"? As if this is a realistic option. How on earth can Newcastle (who are very strong), Norwich (who have been as soft as anything away from home) and Villa (that have been in absolute disarray) be stronger than three clubs that got over 80 points? How is it a stronger division than last year when four teams that have spent naff all with far weaker squads than us are in the top 7? How does Villa being in disarray and Norwich making a complete mess of it mean that we have done well? The reason fans are unhappy is because everybody knew we needed a beast of a centre half and some pace and power on the wing or upfront. We have simply not addressed these issues. This season We have signed:- Kean - not good enough Pudil - not good enough Emanuelson - waste of time Fox - promising start Sasso - not good enough Abdi - rarely selected Buckley - rarely selected Jones - rarely selected McManaman - rarely selected Reach - Don't get me started Rhodes - promising start Winnall - to be decided Fletcher - rarely selected Looking at the above, is it any surprise fans are unhappy, especially when it follows on from the likes of Lachman, Matias, McGugan, Sougou and Joao. It just feels like a massive opportunity missed. The fact that the spine of the team is still based around Westwood, Lees, Loovens, Hutch and Lee says it all. Misquote I said if he wanted a Manager that has won something after he had rubbished CCs cv then Wilder is going to win League one and Mourinho has won plenty thats when i said get down the lane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Lawrie Madden said: What would you call someone that decides if you spend £77m then get say £30m in for players sold that means that haven't spent £77m It means your balance sheet is down £45m not that you haven't spent £77m balance sheets don't cross the white line Well i wouldn't call them anything. I'd just consider they had a different viewpoint. We are all passionate about Wednesday. Why else would we all spend so much time on here and sit listening to FH every night? Not idiots. Just fans like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lees Tom Cat Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Also the difference between this season and the last 6 years at S1 is the fans are behind them. For 6 years previously they was moaning fannies. Go figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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