Bluesteel Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 All this thread tells me is that were gonna have some unhappy central midfielders who all joined on the understanding of playing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Fessi Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I think people look at Mcgugan and his ability and shooting and think he should be playing close to the lone striker. I don't see this. To play there you need pace and trickery , good movement and the ability to get yourself in the game. Mcgugan much prefers facing the play , driving forward with the ball and spraying passes about. I would like to see him playing as one of the two midfielders playing a bit deeper so he has to get in the game and can keep us moving forward . He grew up playing 442 at forest so should easily be capable of playing a bit deeper. Totally agree. I think CC tried playing him in that advanced role but I think he naturally prefers to pass rather than take people on and shoot, as oppose to someone like FF in that number 10 role. Would like to see us play a 433 with the two wingers, Matias & FF playing with lots of freedom roaming around the lone striker, Joao or Nuhiu. I think we have a solid back 4 at the minute, no matter who is partnering Lees, then the rest picks itself. Westwood Pudil Loovens/Turner Lees Hunt Hutchinson + 2 of McGugan/Bannan/Lopez/Lee Matias FF Joao I would hope the fact we have Lopez on a season long wouldn't stop CC dropping him, I think Bannan and McGugan would be fantastic going forward with a CDM like Hutchinson covering, then FF and Matias roaming supporting Joao and Hunt and Pudil who are essentially converted wingers with fantastic turn of pace and work rate joining the attack as well? Very very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklord Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Sod defenders we'll play with 8 in midfield and two up top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 4-2-3-1 is Definitely the way to go. Hutchinson Lopez Bannan Forestieri Matias --- Im also sure that many of our fans will misunderstand the role of Lopez in this position. They'll say how he's not strong enough, and not defensive enough and gets knocked off the ball too easily....but there is much, much more to that position, and for me, he is a perfect Candidate for those responsibilities At home I see it more as a 4-1-4-1 I see those players I named above as - if fit and on form - our best players in those positions, but if there is a loss of form or injury we would have excellent options from the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think people look at Mcgugan and his ability and shooting and think he should be playing close to the lone striker. I don't see this. To play there you need pace and trickery , good movement and the ability to get yourself in the game. Mcgugan much prefers facing the play , driving forward with the ball and spraying passes about. I would like to see him playing as one of the two midfielders playing a bit deeper so he has to get in the game and can keep us moving forward . He grew up playing 442 at forest so should easily be capable of playing a bit deeper. He certainly looked good for us last season in a 442 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 ONE UP TOP WILL NOT WORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 ONE UP TOP WILL NOT WORK I reckon if you send that to CC in an Email, in all caps just like that, you'll convince him. Do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 ONE UP TOP WILL NOT WORK Before we signed Forestieri I would have agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Agree with this one. But God it's hard to leave lee out isn't it!!! Such a tough decision I'd say Lee deserves a place more than anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmcgee Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Before we signed Forestieri I would have agreed. Agreed, looking forward to see him playing the number 10 role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 An isolated 1 up front will not work. 1 upfront with the right players in and around, will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 An isolated 1 up front will not work. 1 upfront with the right players in and around, will. Front man still needs to be mobile and able to run in behind though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Playing 4-2-3-1 means until sign alternative then Nuhiu has to be the '1' creates space and holds ball up well. Would play.... Westwood Hunt Lees Turner Pudil Hutchison Lee Bannan Ff matais Nuhiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Can't believe people still think Nuhiu can play the lone striker role. And this "he creates space" crap is one of the most ridiculous reasons I've ever heard for playing someone. You could play Michael flipping Higdon or ANY big handful of a striker up there and he'd amble about and "create space". So much more needed to play the lone striker role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Can't believe people still think Nuhiu can play the lone striker role. And this "he creates space" crap is one of the most ridiculous reasons I've ever heard for playing someone. You could play Michael flipping Higdon or ANY big handful of a striker up there and he'd amble about and "create space". So much more needed to play the lone striker role. He is s lot more suited to it that Joao or any other option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 He is s lot more suited to it that Joao or any other option. Joao can do everything Nuhiu can plus a hell of a lot more. It's a no brainer that he starts if he's fit. CC seems to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Joao can do everything Nuhiu can plus a hell of a lot more. It's a no brainer that he starts if he's fit. CC seems to agree. I would tend to disagree after seeing him play vs reading. One main thing a lone striker has to do is be able to play well with back to goal and hold ball up. Joao much weaker than Nuhiu in this aspect. And this is what makes lone striker so isolated Joao can do everything Nuhiu can plus a hell of a lot more. It's a no brainer that he starts if he's fit. CC seems to agree. I would tend to disagree after seeing him play vs reading. One main thing a lone striker has to do is be able to play well with back to goal and hold ball up. Joao much weaker than Nuhiu in this aspect. And this is what makes lone striker so isolated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Holding the ball up is not as important as people on here make out. Aguero, Costa, Callum Wilson don't hold the ball up. They're strong enough to compete and shield the ball if they need to, but they're not in the team to hold it up. They do their best work when facing the goal. If you have a striker who's main attribute is holding the ball up, you'll end up launching the ball up to him. It happens EVERY time. It's an easy option. You need someone always beyond a player like that and that only happens if it's 442. Joao is the closest thing we have to someone who can play the lone striker role. By a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Again evidenced by the reading game and every other performance this year when he has played that role speaks otherwise. I am not saying Joao won't be a much better player than Nuhiu in time but at moment we look much better with Nuhiu in the team than when he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 We didn't look poor against Reading or Ipswich because Joao was upfront and not Nuhiu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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