BIG D Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 A high line with no pressure on the ball. Amateur defending Even though they caught him offside and the linesman missed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geörge Whitebread Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Don't talk like you actually play football... Something the officials ought to have a bash at perhaps?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Can't quite believe people are slagging off our offside trap when clearly we caught two players offside for their first goal.... It's not their fault that the linesman is a halfwit. Edited October 18, 2014 by FlyingOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geörge Whitebread Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 That player wasnt involved in active play... Ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatricowl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Okay so there is clearly differing opinions on this phase of play but the player receiving the ball then ran into the penalty area before making a forward pass to the player who scored who was without doubt in an offside position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharrowowl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It looks offside to me but now I realise the ball is off the ground and has been touched so the attacker would have been behind the defender isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Why is this thread focusing on the recipient of the ball? The goal scorer is clearly miles off side. Twice! (He was the furthest forward when the second ball was passed too!) Can't believe how many people don't understand offside! Ighalo WAS NOT ACTIVE under FIFA interpretation - Vydra being the active player by default made Ighalo inactive Those are the rules Vydra probably was offside but it wasn't given - Ighalo was the active player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It looks offside to me but now I realise the ball is off the ground and has been touched so the attacker would have been behind the defender isn't it? The ball had left the ground do the position of the striker is irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkstone Owl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Personally I more fuming at the offside once the Watford player was in the box - Watford dude who got through on goal and passes it FORWARD to the guy that scored = OFFSIDE STILL fuming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Personally I more fuming at the offside once the Watford player was in the box - Watford dude who got through on goal and passes it FORWARD to the guy that scored = OFFSIDE STILL fuming I haven't seen the goal - but a forward pass alone doesn't make the receiving player offside (taking that they are beyond the last defenders) - depends on their relative positions at the time of the pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 The original ball through is definetly open to debate , but the final pass to score the goal was a forward pass and the player was therefore offside . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fedor Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Personally I more fuming at the offside once the Watford player was in the box - Watford dude who got through on goal and passes it FORWARD to the guy that scored = OFFSIDE STILL fuming He was behind the passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 The original ball through is definetly open to debate , but the final pass to score the goal was a forward pass and the player was therefore offside . Eh? It's not like a forward pass in rugby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 He was behind the passer. If Ighalo was behind Vydra then it would be clearly onside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefieldowl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 It wasnt offside. In that picture the ball has left his foot. Take it back a frame on contact with the ball he was onside, timed his run to perfection. I love the way that there is always one on here that will argue the opposite. I never get why so called Wednesday fans will always see the opposite of everyone else. That is offside. Clear offside even if you take it back a frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
till_i_die Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Can't believe how many people don't understand offside! Ighalo WAS NOT ACTIVE under FIFA interpretation - Vydra being the active player by default made Ighalo inactive Those are the rules Vydra probably was offside but it wasn't given - Ighalo was the active player No. Incorrect. There isn't necessarily just one active player on each side at one time, it's not like playing FIFA on the Xbox! Read the rules posted earlier. Personally I more fuming at the offside once the Watford player was in the box - Watford dude who got through on goal and passes it FORWARD to the guy that scored = OFFSIDE STILL fuming According to the FIFA official guidelines, the player is not offside if he is behind the ball when it's played. Regardless of what direction the ball goes in. I did think the same as you, but that's not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 No. Incorrect. There isn't necessarily just one active player on each side at one time, it's not like playing FIFA on the Xbox! Read the rules posted earlier. According to the FIFA official guidelines, the player is not offside if he is behind the ball when it's played. Regardless of what direction the ball goes in. I did think the same as you, but that's not the case. Your second point and lack of knowledge of a very basic aspect of offside says everything This isn't xbox! As for your first point - read slide 14 of the FIFA offside ruling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geörge Whitebread Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Can't believe how many people don't understand offside! Ighalo WAS NOT ACTIVE under FIFA interpretation - Vydra being the active player by default made Ighalo inactive Those are the rules Vydra probably was offside but it wasn't given - Ighalo was the active player Absolute nonsense! Firstly, he clearly was active. He may not have received the ball at that point, but (a) he affected the positioning of our defenders, and (b) he ran forward as Vydra received the ball, making himself available to receive it immediately. Secondly, he was passed to and scored, in the exact same passage of play. How can that possibly not constitue an active role? I'll have to wait until I see the replays; but I'm not sure he even went back onside inbetween the picture and the second pass, for which he was clearly offside AGAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fedor Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 If Ighalo was behind Vydra then it would be clearly onside It was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Absolute nonsense! Firstly, he clearly was active. He may not have received the ball at that point, but (a) he affected the positioning of our defenders, and (b) he ran forward as Vydra received the ball, making himself available to receive it immediately. Secondly, he was passed to and scored, in the exact same passage of play. How can that possibly not constitue an active role? I'll have to wait until I see the replays; but I'm not sure he even went back onside inbetween the picture and the second pass, for which he was clearly offside AGAIN! Okay You don't understand the offside rule I get it No point in arguing further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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