Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It's the same concept - which you don't seem to understand. However, as easy as it is, I won't begin a slanging match. The ONLY way to reliably compare your performance year on year is to compare points total. League position is dictated by the performance of OTHER teams. And this post concisely contains my thoughts on the topic. Good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siowls Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 My post seems to have been missed. How can we judge this season already when we have 2 games left and could potentially finish on 59 points, making us 1 point better off than last season? You're right! It's the concept of measuring performance I believe we're debating.We will have improved regardless if we finish this season with a higher points total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisCityIsOurs88 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You're right! It's the concept of measuring performance I believe we're debating. We will have improved regardless if we finish this season with a higher points total. On that note - good night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANGLED UP IN BLUE Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think one of the Senior official table gazers should have some input, they know about points like the back of their hands. Are they bothered if this year or next we finished higher on less points or lower on more points? Would it affect the table gazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 We should be worried for next season. We're on a backwards slope... fear it fear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CageFightingOwl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It's the same concept - which you don't seem to understand. However, as easy as it is, I won't begin a slanging match. The ONLY way to reliably compare your performance year on year is to compare points total. League position is dictated by a combination of your performance and performances of OTHER teams. Wrong. Points totals are dictated to by all the other teams. 1st and 2nd = promotion 3rd - 6th = play offs 22nd - 24th = relegation The points total will change season on season and will have no reflection on who finishes where. So in other words the points total doesnt matter, its where you finish that matters. 6th and 7th could be level on points, have they both had equal seasons despite 6th place possibly gaining promotion? Same for 21st and 22nd, level on points but the points mean f'k all, its the league position that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 We should be worried for next season. We're on a backwards slope... fear it fear it. What's that based on, fanny juice exploding from your nether regions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CageFightingOwl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You're right! It's the concept of measuring performance I believe we're debating. We will have improved regardless if we finish this season with a higher points total. Erm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 What's that based on, fanny juice exploding from your nether regions? Mainly because we'll be wearing a tinpot kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Mainly because we'll be wearing a tinpot kit. Ahhhh panic! #ShitKit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I'm quite optimistic about next season although I don't want to commit myself to a particular clique yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 My post seems to have been missed. How can we judge this season already when we have 2 games left and could potentially finish on 59 points, making us 1 point better off than last season? That's exactly the point I made earlier in my head but couldn't be arsed to post it. My next thought was that, even if we do end up with a lower total, many others have had a much greater decline (points total) than ourselves. Bolton finished with 68 points last year - currently on 55. Charlton finished with 65 points last year - currently on 45. Birmingham finished with 61 points last year - currently on 43. Leeds finished with 61 points last year - currently on 53. Blackpool finished with 59 points last year - currently on 43. Huddersfield finished with 58 points last year - currently on 50. Millwall finished with 56 points last year - currently on 44. Barnsley finished with 55 points last year - currently on 39. Compare Yeovil (currently on 37) with Peterborough (relegated with 54 points last season) and it all points to us having 'failed' admirably compared to so many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CageFightingOwl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I'm quite optimistic about next season although I don't want to commit myself to a particular clique yet. Im a bit worried. Clearly its all about bringing in the right players and keeping the right players, that will decide how we do next season. However, i wish i had more trust in Milan to deliver. Look at the last 2 seasons and how poor we started. Doesnt exactly fill you with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANGLED UP IN BLUE Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 That's exactly the point I made earlier in my head but couldn't be arsed to post it. My next thought was that, even if we do end up with a lower total, many others have had a much greater decline (points total) than ourselves. Bolton finished with 68 points last year - currently on 55. Charlton finished with 65 points last year - currently on 45. Birmingham finished with 61 points last year - currently on 43. Leeds finished with 61 points last year - currently on 53. Blackpool finished with 59 points last year - currently on 43. Huddersfield finished with 58 points last year - currently on 50. Millwall finished with 56 points last year - currently on 44. Barnsley finished with 55 points last year - currently on 39. Compare Yeovil (currently on 37) with Peterborough (relegated with 54 points last season) and it all points to us having 'failed' admirably compared to so many others. Nice work, good post that. Thats what was needed some Table gazers input. :) UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CageFightingOwl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 That's exactly the point I made earlier in my head but couldn't be arsed to post it. My next thought was that, even if we do end up with a lower total, many others have had a much greater decline (points total) than ourselves. Bolton finished with 68 points last year - currently on 55. Charlton finished with 65 points last year - currently on 45. Birmingham finished with 61 points last year - currently on 43. Leeds finished with 61 points last year - currently on 53. Blackpool finished with 59 points last year - currently on 43. Huddersfield finished with 58 points last year - currently on 50. Millwall finished with 56 points last year - currently on 44. Barnsley finished with 55 points last year - currently on 39. Compare Yeovil (currently on 37) with Peterborough (relegated with 54 points last season) and it all points to us having 'failed' admirably compared to so many others. By quickly looking at that then i can guess that the top 10 will have had a much bigger points tally than last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 progress started the day demo left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 That's exactly the point I made earlier in my head but couldn't be arsed to post it. My next thought was that, even if we do end up with a lower total, many others have had a much greater decline (points total) than ourselves. Bolton finished with 68 points last year - currently on 55. Charlton finished with 65 points last year - currently on 45. Birmingham finished with 61 points last year - currently on 43. Leeds finished with 61 points last year - currently on 53. Blackpool finished with 59 points last year - currently on 43. Huddersfield finished with 58 points last year - currently on 50. Millwall finished with 56 points last year - currently on 44. Barnsley finished with 55 points last year - currently on 39. Compare Yeovil (currently on 37) with Peterborough (relegated with 54 points last season) and it all points to us having 'failed' admirably compared to so many others. Just makes you think how bad some clubs have been this year, I bet Pboro will feel bad if they don't go up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Just makes you think how bad some clubs have been this year, I bet Pboro will feel bad if they don't go up this year. Yeah. Also forgot Donny (currently on 43) who could be compared with Wolves (relegated with 51 points last year) and not a single team listed can possibly surpass their point tally from last season. We still can, theoretically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Right, going on this season, it's chalk and cheese points wise. I've worked it out as follows: DJ averaged 0.68 pts per game. SG averages 1.5 pts per game. We'd be on 66 pts now (based on SG's performance - if he'd been in charge at start of season)... Which means we're a top 6 side!!!! I'm happy as chuff now! Playoffs at least next season! HMS PTL boarding and about to set sail. Sure after a summer of inactivity there will be a massive bump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siowls Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Wrong. Points totals are dictated to by all the other teams. 1st and 2nd = promotion 3rd - 6th = play offs 22nd - 24th = relegation The points total will change season on season and will have no reflection on who finishes where. So in other words the points total doesnt matter, its where you finish that matters. 6th and 7th could be level on points, have they both had equal seasons despite 6th place possibly gaining promotion? Same for 21st and 22nd, level on points but the points mean f'k all, its the league position that counts. You're talking about position not points total. With all respect, I don't think you'll ever get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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