Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 No, I mean you.... Because my patience with this guy is at the end of its tether. Hmm, that sounds the sort of attitude that got Madine into trouble, I could't give a throw about what individuals think I only want what's best for Sheffield Wednesday. I'd better not post any more on this subject as I wouldn't want to risk your freedom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Sorry but I don't get your gripe then ? If you trust Gray what is your problem ? If he's good enough to be picked he will be, if he's not you can bet he will be loaned out or sold but we should at least give ourselves a chance to see if we have got a valuable asset on our hands before we give it away. My gripe is the fact that we've already seen if we have a valuable asset on our hands and we all know that we haven't. We've all seen how poor he is in this league. People seriously think that because he's been to prison he's going to come out and be our next David Hirst. Why....? I bet Fergie wished Djemba Djemba would have gone out in Deansgate and chinned a Man Utd fan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 It will probably come down to two key things - Has his attitude changed as a result of his prison experience? - Can he improve under Gray as others have done? We will see soon enough. Assertions either way are irrelevant until he's had the opportunity to provide the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Hmm, that sounds the sort of attitude that got Madine into trouble, I could't give a throw about what individuals think I only want what's best for Sheffield Wednesday. I'd better not post any more on this subject as I wouldn't want to risk your freedom... I dont understand any of this post.... sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 It will probably come down to two key things - Has his attitude changed as a result of his prison experience? - Can he improve under Gray as others have done? We will see soon enough. Assertions either way are irrelevant until he's had the opportunity to provide the answers. Exactly ! Apologies as I said I wouldn't make a further comment and have done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 ?........... People seriously think that because he's been to prison he's going to come out and be our next David Hirst. Why....? ... He MIGHT turn out to to be an improvement on the old Madine. Why not just wait and see? It seems pretty certain that he's going to get the opportunity no matter what people feel anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 He MIGHT turn out to to be an improvement on the old Madine. Why not just wait and see? It seems pretty certain that he's going to get the opportunity no matter what people feel anyway. He might pal. But like alluded to earlier, do you think if Djemba Djemba went prison he would come out and be the next Zidane....? As you said, there's nothing I can do to affect anything. I told myself that I wasn't going to post on anymore Gary Madine threads but I just cant help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 He might pal. But like alluded to earlier, do you think if Djemba Djemba went prison he would come out and be the next Zidane....? As you said, there's nothing I can do to affect anything. I told myself that I wasn't going to post on anymore Gary Madine threads but I just cant help myself. Ha. Mrs Dag has just had a pop at me for being on OT AGAIN too, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 No, I mean you.... Because my patience with this guy is at the end of its tether. So imagine ramone your head coach of swfc and in the situation gray finds himself in now, what would you do trust your skills to produce a worthwhile member of your sqaud or just get rid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 So imagine ramone your head coach of swfc and in the situation gray finds himself in now, what would you do trust your skills to produce a worthwhile member of your sqaud or just get rid? I suspect Grays hands are tied a little with this. I imagine MM/PA have told him what the score is and he has to deal with it the best he can. If I was MM/PA, i would have axed him when he got sent down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MinsOfTimeAddedOn Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Looking at the bare statistics suggests that Madine did flounder last season, on the face of it he played 35 matches and scored four goals – close to one goal in nine. Digging a little deeper reveals a truer picture. Madine came off the bench 20 times in those 35 appearances often with an hour or more played. Even including the fact that he started 14 league and cup games, and was only replaced five times, Madine’s average playing time was only around 40 minutes per match. Like many strikers, Madine is a confidence player and might have benefitted from an extended run of games – and then a fairer judgment could be applied to his ability to make the step up a division. Given the stop start nature of his season Madine’s scoring record was actually far more impressive than it appears. The striker averaged a goal every 385 minutes. If you translate that into 90 minute matches that is a goal every 4.27 games. Allowing for the fact that Madine did not get many full games, or a consistent run of them, that is not a bad benchmark. - I wrote the above in an article published shortly after his release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 and a good post it is too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MinsOfTimeAddedOn Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Cheers Trev. The rest of it is here if you're interested: http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2014/02/welcome-to-the-machine-why-madine-warrants-a-last-chance/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I really want to see how Madine gets on in Gray's side. Could look totally different like a few others since Gray took charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I hope he breaks his neck. And i'll hope it every time he steps onto the field. He's scum. Neg away. Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I hope he breaks his neck. And i'll hope it every time he steps onto the field. He's scum. Neg away.[/quote Nice! What a lovely view of one of our own players Never mind one of our players. What a lovely thought to have about another human being. If he was a badman or a rapist then fair dos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonowl1986 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Hopefully the motivation to prove everyone wrong will be enough. Nobody wants to see him fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyowl Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I hope he breaks his neck. And i'll hope it every time he steps onto the field. He's scum. Neg away. Shameful !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Still think we will loan him out for the rest of the season Pigs v Carlisle Wednesday, hint ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Cheers Trev. The rest of it is here if you're interested: http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2014/02/welcome-to-the-machine-why-madine-warrants-a-last-chance/ good read enjoyed that ,looks at it from all angles ,thank you for the link , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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