Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The U21's development game is at Middlewood Rd against Birmingham, kick off at 1:00pm Is anyone going that could give us updates ? - Kivo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The U21's development game is at Middlewood Rd against Birmingham, kick off at 1:00pm Is anyone going that could give us updates ? - Kivo ? ive got my ticket this is going to be bigger than hirstys come back in that reserve game years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffix Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) yeah, like Semedo, Lee, Mattock, Maguire and Maghoma. They weren't good enough 6 months ago either Do you think DJ miscalculated with Ryan Lowe too. Would he have thrived under Gray? Edited March 7, 2014 by sheffix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 ive got my ticket this is going to be bigger than hirstys come back in that reserve game years ago Good man, will you be able to give us updates during the game ? Doubt if Madines testimonial will be as good as Hirsty's tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The only person talking sense in this thread is Vulva. His argument is based on fact rather than blind faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The only person talking sense in this thread is Vulva. His argument is based on fact rather than blind faith. Rubbish, it's not based on fact it's based on his opinion, besides, if you've followed Wednesday for any length of time you should know by now blind faith isn't a requirement it's often compulsory FFS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Rubbish, it's not based on fact it's based on his opinion, besides, if you've followed Wednesday for any length of time you should know by now blind faith isn't a requirement it's often compulsory FFS.... Not Rubbish The facts are: Gary Madine in the Chmpionship - 30 appearences/3 goals - The facts say he isn't good enough. Blind faith and if/buts/maybes say he is good enough. I know which I would prefer to base my opinions on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I hope he breaks his neck. And i'll hope it every time he steps onto the field. He's scum. Neg away. 'We're all Wednesday aren't we' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Not Rubbish The facts are: Gary Madine in the Chmpionship - 30 appearences/3 goals - The facts say he isn't good enough. Blind faith and if/buts/maybes say he is good enough. I know which I would prefer to base my opinions on.... The fact is he also didn't get a fair run in the team, just got bit parts. It's also a fact that many of the players thought to be rubbish at this level are know playing well and are first team regulars, surely before giving up on him we should give him a fresh chance under Gray ? Either way, given Grays record he seems to know what he's doing so I'll leave it to him to decide what's best for SWFC as to whether Madine plays or not, if Gray thinks he's good enough it will do for me - fact ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Not Rubbish The facts are: Gary Madine in the Chmpionship - 30 appearences/3 goals - The facts say he isn't good enough. Blind faith and if/buts/maybes say he is good enough. I know which I would prefer to base my opinions on.... Its based on stats then. Stats so far suggest he has struggled. But so did Grant Holt early in his career, things can change you know. Its Madine's final chance to prove himself, but many including the club feel it is worth giving him that chance rather than cutting him loose. There would be plenty moaning if we did that and he came back as a good Championship striker in 2 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The fact is he also didn't get a fair run in the team, just got bit parts. It's also a fact that many of the players thought to be rubbish at this level are know playing well and are first team regulars, surely before giving up on him we should give him a fresh chance under Gray ? Either way, given Grays record he seems to know what he's doing so I'll leave it to him to decide what's best for SWFC as to whether Madine plays or not, if Gray thinks he's good enough it will do for me - fact ! Now thats rubbish - I posted the actual playing stats of Gary Madines first half season in the Championship. From August to the end of December. During that period he was on the pitch for a total of 1,054 minutes and scored 3 goals, 1 of which was a penalty. Not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Now thats rubbish - I posted the actual playing stats of Gary Madines first half season in the Championship. From August to the end of December. During that period he was on the pitch for a total of 1,054 minutes and scored 3 goals, 1 of which was a penalty. Not good enough now djs gone every one gets a clean slate maguire semedeo and lee amongst others were poo poo under jones how can it hurt to give madine a chance to find out if hes good enough if he is then surely thats a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Now thats rubbish - I posted the actual playing stats of Gary Madines first half season in the Championship. From August to the end of December. During that period he was on the pitch for a total of 1,054 minutes and scored 3 goals, 1 of which was a penalty. Not good enough Like I said, that was under Jones so to me it means nowt. I'm prepared to trust Gray's judgment, so we'll just have to wait and see. Tho I do think that those believing he will be back in the first team in no time and banging em in for fun are asking a little too much. It will be nice to see us getting one of our own back to fitness for a change rather than doing it for other clubs players.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 now djs gone every one gets a clean slate maguire semedeo and lee amongst others were poo poo under jones how can it hurt to give madine a chance to find out if hes good enough if he is then surely thats a good thing Lee wasn't poor under Jones. He was instrumental to us picking up 40 odd points in the back end of last season. Semedo looked out of his depth at the start of last season and rightly dropped. So pleased for the lad that he has proved he can cut it in this league Maguire, I couldn't tell you whether he was poor or not, dont think I saw him play under Jones....?? But all 3 of the above have what Gary Madine doesn't have, the right attitude to succeed. They all work hard on the pitch. If they aren't playing well, they will make sure they put a shift in. I dont think i've ever seen Gary Madine do that. When things aren't going his way he goes hiding. It was the same when we were in League One. If he proves me wrong I will be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Like I said, that was under Jones so to me it means nowt. I'm prepared to trust Gray's judgment, so we'll just have to wait and see. Tho I do think that those believing he will be back in the first team in no time and banging em in for fun are asking a little too much. It will be nice to see us getting one of our own back to fitness for a change rather than doing it for other clubs players.. Wow - thats right, clutch at those straws to ignore facts. I admire your patience with this guy I really do. I hope your patience turns out to be fruitful for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Lee wasn't poor under Jones. He was instrumental to us picking up 40 odd points in the back end of last season. Semedo looked out of his depth at the start of last season and rightly dropped. So pleased for the lad that he has proved he can cut it in this league Maguire, I couldn't tell you whether he was poor or not, dont think I saw him play under Jones....?? But all 3 of the above have what Gary Madine doesn't have, the right attitude to succeed. They all work hard on the pitch. If they aren't playing well, they will make sure they put a shift in. I dont think i've ever seen Gary Madine do that. When things aren't going his way he goes hiding. It was the same when we were in League One. If he proves me wrong I will be pleasantly surprised. Do you honestly think Gray would play him if he wasn't putting the work in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Do you honestly think Gray would play him if he wasn't putting the work in ? No I dont.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Wow - thats right, clutch at those straws to ignore facts. I admire your patience with this guy I really do. I hope your patience turns out to be fruitful for you. You mean US surely, or have you a "darker" side ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 You mean US surely, or have you a "darker" side ? No, I mean you.... Because my patience with this guy is at the end of its tether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 No I dont.... Sorry but I don't get your gripe then ? If you trust Gray what is your problem ? If he's good enough to be picked he will be, if he's not you can bet he will be loaned out or sold but we should at least give ourselves a chance to see if we have got a valuable asset on our hands before we give it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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