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Just now, room0035 said:

If the club are smart we could make some money out of Hirst a few million now and a sell on. Sheff Utd and Barnsley didn't make loads selling their young players but made more when they were sold on.

 

If DC is smart accept a £2m fee with 15% sell on clause in a few years we make millions of he makes it.

 

If we are too greedy now it goes to tribunal and the fact we banished him to not play for us will go against us. 

 

Now is the time for DC to use his business brain. We shall see if he has one.

 

We cant sell him, his contract is up and we are not in a transfer window.

 

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We were offered two million and refused it ..  the tribunal takes the last bid into consideration if the bid can be substantiated.  That's why people are saying around 2 million

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7 hours ago, doubleo said:

How about buy him and loan him back for a couple seasons. Win, win 

With our history of injuries 

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12 minutes ago, Will69 said:

Genuinely baffled by all these compensation figures being dreamt up.

 

Solanke’s move to Liverpool is expected to cost Liverpool £2m to £3m. Solanke came through Chelsea’s academy so didn’t cost Chelsea a transfer fee (just like Hirst here) and made just one substitute performance for Chelsea despite being established as an England U19 etc level player.

 

Anyone who thinks Hirst is anywhere near the player Solanke is wants to giver their head a wobble. If Liverpool end up paying more than £4m in compensation it will be ridiculous, just to add some perspective to those on here thinking we will get £2m up front and a host of add ons.

 

Dreamland stuff.

QPR sold youth team player this season made no first team appearances sold for £4.1m based on potential. Might not get that much but market gone silly at moment 

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5 minutes ago, room0035 said:

If the club are smart we could make some money out of Hirst a few million now and a sell on. Sheff Utd and Barnsley didn't make loads selling their young players but made more when they were sold on.

 

If DC is smart accept a £2m fee with 15% sell on clause in a few years we make millions of he makes it.

 

If we are too greedy now it goes to tribunal and the fact we banished him to not play for us will go against us. 

 

Now is the time for DC to use his business brain. We shall see if he has one.

He turned down a reported £2m from Leicester in the summer and then personally banned him from playing. 

 

Thats how smart our chairman is. 

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2 minutes ago, Will69 said:

 

We cant sell him, his contract is up and we are not in a transfer window.

 

Dreamland.

No he is under 24 so it can go to tribunal unless the two clubs involve agree pain a fee. It is less costly for both sides to avoid a tribunal and easier. It does not matter if he is in contract or not no dreamland just common sense.

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23 minutes ago, kazads said:

That's not the story that was around at the time it happened...Hirst said he didn't want to go back then...I heard it on the radio at the time that he had decided against it...but course can't prove that now but can remember being very happy when it came on sport report on the radio...if he had wanted to go even back then he would have gone ...but time changes stories ...

 

I heard a similar story from a very good friend of his. He was concerned about ending up on their bench. I am never ITK but i did work with one of his besties for nearly 5 years. Heard quite a few interesting stories, which I couldn't share. I'm a massive Hirsty fan though and he was loyal to us. With hindsight he realises he should have made the switch (which is probably where the regret comes from - although for the Lions share of the time he was happy with us). He is trying to do the best for his son - so he's a good dad as well as a good footballer. All these people saying he won't make it haven't got a clue. There are also people going on about winners and losers. The only losers are those who are scared to take a chance when an opportunity comes their way. The chances of him being a regular first teamer at United are slim, but possible. If he turns out like his dad then he will walk into their current first team. I wish George and his dad all the best. Whatever happens that man is a true Wednesday Legend - the closest thing we've ever had to Roy of the Rovers - and he deserves respect for that.

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Just now, David1867 said:

He turned down a reported £2m from Leicester in the summer and then personally banned him from playing. 

I know this is the worrying but DC does not have a track record of doing the smart thing.

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1 minute ago, room0035 said:

QPR sold youth team player this season made no first team appearances sold for £4.1m based on potential. Might not get that much but market gone silly at moment 

 

Who?

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1 minute ago, Will69 said:

 

Who?

Josh Bowler

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3 minutes ago, room0035 said:

No he is under 24 so it can go to tribunal unless the two clubs involve agree pain a fee. It is less costly for both sides to avoid a tribunal and easier. It does not matter if he is in contract or not no dreamland just common sense.

 

You don’t understand how this works... 

 

He is out of contract, any club can offer him whatever terms they want. The details of his contract with any other club we have literally no control over. The receiving club in this case Man United offer us a compensation package, we either accept or reject it, we don’t negotiate a transfer fee as he is out of contract. Plus this is not a transfer window.

 

If neither club can agree on a compensation package then the PFCC committee listen to all sides and agree a package themselves and that’s a common way to do this, it doesn’t become massively costly to us for this to be the case.

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Josh Bowler at QPR was going to sign his first professional deal then Everton showed interest and he decided against. QPR got £1.5m up front and that could rise to £4m based on contract clause, with presumably a sell on clause in there. Very similar to situation of Hirst without all the mid slinging from both sides.

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4 minutes ago, room0035 said:

Josh Bowler

 

Yeah, totally different situation.

 

They paid a transfer fee, he wasn’t out of contract. The fees are COMPLETELY different and are by no means a useful guide.

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1 minute ago, Will69 said:

 

You don’t understand how this works... 

 

He is out of contract, any club can offer him whatever terms they want. The details of his contract with any other club we have literally no control over. The receiving club in this case Man United offer us a compensation package, we either accept or reject it, we don’t negotiate a transfer fee as he is out of contract. Plus this is not a transfer window.

 

If neither club can agree on a compensation package then the PFCC committee listen to all sides and agree a package themselves and that’s a common way to do this, it doesn’t become massively costly to us for this to be the case.

Yes but in these situation common sense normal prevails Man Utd are not going to want to waste months for the sake of a few 000's which to them is nothing.

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1 hour ago, Groundhopping Owl said:

Mourinho hasn’t exactly done an incredible job of bringing through young strikers at United. Rashford’s career development has stalled because he has to sit on a bench behind a player who’s no better than him but gets played because he was a big money buy.

 

The best prospects in the championship are players like Sessegnon and Brooks who didn’t jump for the big club move at the first time of asking and instead gave themselves time to develop. Half our strikers are surplus to requirements anyway, Hirst would be best to stick around and have a  proper crack at breaking in next season under a manager who isn’t afraid of bringing through younger lads.

 

Hirst and Hirst snr got the hump on when we signed Winnall and Rhodes. Thought George would never get a game. 

 

Irony is he would have probably got a game this season. Nevertheless banning him from playing just because he wouldn't sign a contract wasn't the right way of going about it by the chairman. 

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Just now, room0035 said:

Yes but in these situation common sense normal prevails Man Utd are not going to want to waste months for the sake of a few 000's which to them is nothing.

 

It isn’t a waste of time, costly etc. It is common practice. You genuinely are talking out of your Harris.

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1 minute ago, Will69 said:

 

Yeah, totally different situation.

 

They paid a transfer fee, he wasn’t out of contract. The fees are COMPLETELY different and are by no means a useful guide.

Think i may have misunderstood the "josh bowler" link i posted for you.

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So it goes to tribunal the player cannot play because we hold his registration because he is under 24 or the two clubs come to an agreement about a reasonable compensation.

 

Now which way would I go. I think COMMON SENSE will be used but this is DC so anything could happen.lol

 

Don't worry we will find out soon enough. The ironic thing is Man Utd will loan him out to get first team football and I can see him at Sheff United next season. That would be the final nail in the coffin of the George Hirst says - the best young player we have produced in 20+ and we let him slip through our hands.

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