HirstWhoScoredIt Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, SiJ said: Certainly something in this. I mean if the money had "dried up" or Chansiri is handcuffed due to FFP (he wants to put more in, but can't), then why in the hell are we treating the entire commercial side of our club with borderline contempt? Conversely, if money wasn't so tight, why did he insist corporate customers had to pay everything upfront with no credit terms? And then follow it up with selling 3 year season tickets so he got all of the money upfront? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, cactus said: How were they worthless, when the guy you quoted spent £5000 per share? They weren't worthless, they just weren't liquid. You could only sell to a Wednesday fan that had £5,000 and fancied parting with it in return for a season ticket for life. Therefire, moving them on took an age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: They weren't worthless, they just weren't liquid. You could only sell to a Wednesday fan that had £5,000 and fancied parting with it in return for a season ticket for life. Therefire, moving them on took an age. No it didn’t, l spent most of the late ‘60’s and early ‘70’s trying to buy one. As soon as the advertisement in the Star appeared selling one, they went like lightning and normally for more than the asking price. I never got close to being able to buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 To be fair I think this Club 1867 should be taken off sale It's clearly not the best idea and the most warmly recieved Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Tbh if this was any other business apart from the football club you supported would you go within a million miles of it. When you talk to a business acquaintance who works in the Insolvency sector and you ask about the protection for your money and they just laugh you know it's not a good thing. As someone says above a 3 year season ticket was in itself a calculated gamble that it would be honoured if the business got into trouble. The reason the plaque is taken off your seat at the end of the season is very simple. If it was on there until the Club got to the Premier League then for FFP it would have to spread the money accounting wise over more than year. Not so good for FFP. So I doff my professional accountants cap to whoever come up with it because it is ruddy clever. My objection is that if you have 3 year season tickets and this type of scheme you are robbing a lot of revenue from the future. That is what caused the mess that ultimately lead to the High Court steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, mkowl said: Tbh if this was any other business apart from the football club you supported would you go within a million miles of it. When you talk to a business acquaintance who works in the Insolvency sector and you ask about the protection for your money and they just laugh you know it's not a good thing. As someone says above a 3 year season ticket was in itself a calculated gamble that it would be honoured if the business got into trouble. The reason the plaque is taken off your seat at the end of the season is very simple. If it was on there until the Club got to the Premier League then for FFP it would have to spread the money accounting wise over more than year. Not so good for FFP. So I doff my professional accountants cap to whoever come up with it because it is ruddy clever. My objection is that if you have 3 year season tickets and this type of scheme you are robbing a lot of revenue from the future. That is what caused the mess that ultimately lead to the High Court steps Could you put this into laymans terms - you know - for the idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, mkowl said: Tbh if this was any other business apart from the football club you supported would you go within a million miles of it. When you talk to a business acquaintance who works in the Insolvency sector and you ask about the protection for your money and they just laugh you know it's not a good thing. As someone says above a 3 year season ticket was in itself a calculated gamble that it would be honoured if the business got into trouble. The reason the plaque is taken off your seat at the end of the season is very simple. If it was on there until the Club got to the Premier League then for FFP it would have to spread the money accounting wise over more than year. Not so good for FFP. So I doff my professional accountants cap to whoever come up with it because it is ruddy clever. My objection is that if you have 3 year season tickets and this type of scheme you are robbing a lot of revenue from the future. That is what caused the mess that ultimately lead to the High Court steps Genuinely interested if anyone on here has bought one other than the chansiris aliases of course Edited October 18, 2017 by steelowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Has anyone actually signed up to this? Sounds worse than a pyramid scheme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Not ITK but I heard Trigger off OFAH purchased one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Surely we haven't sold one legitimately. I suspect DC's 'mates' may have bought a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Grandad said: Could you put this into laymans terms - you know - for the idiots Perhaps give it a go later - busy doing real accounts at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 hours ago, Grandad said: Could you put this into laymans terms - you know - for the idiots 14 minutes ago, mkowl said: Perhaps give it a go later - busy doing real accounts at the moment Appreciate that Cos one of the idiots I was referring to negged my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 QUESTION If the club only sells 5 or 6 of these (realistic expectations based on what's on offer) then would they fulfill those orders still? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: QUESTION If the club only sells 5 or 6 of these (realistic expectations based on what's on offer) then would they fulfill those orders still? Yes while under current ownership, but I assume if SWFCltd or whatever it currently is was closed down, goes bust etc nothing stopping a new owner doing this and a new business set up, all commitments would be void unless the new owner WANTED to honour it Edited October 19, 2017 by Spencerowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 On 14/10/2017 at 06:22, james o connor said: smarter to start selling shirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Grandad said: Appreciate that Cos one of the idiots I was referring to negged my post. And you had the cheek to call me a nobhead earlier. I'm sure you was questioning the logic of them coming off at the end of the season when the they were launched a few weeks back too. The f*ckin irony, idiot Edited October 19, 2017 by Ash76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ash76 said: And you had the cheek to call me a nobhead earlier. I'm sure you was questioning the logic of them coming off at the end of the season when the they were launched a few weeks back too. The f*ckin irony, idiot Can you tell me how you managed to type no bhead without it doing the word changing thing? Asking for a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Grandad said: Can you tell me how you managed to type no bhead without it doing the word changing thing? Asking for a friend Sure, type Gr andad and it should change it automatically for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Gr andad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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