Guest Strap Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Buxton will continue at CB because he is right footed and Loovens is left footed. Dielna is left footed. Gray want's to keep the balance. Why not play palmer at centre half? I'm not even joking. How the hell Buxton got a new contract when we got rid of Reda because of his injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Gray thought Buxton was excellent at CB today. I'm not sure he will keep wanting to chop and change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viva hate Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Buxton was excellent at aimlessly launching the ball into space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Why does it have to be our best players that are out injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Why does it have to be our best players that are out injured Often because the only reason players of their standard join us rather than better teams is that they are too injury prone for others to sign them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike312 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I think I'd prefer Zayatte to Buxton or Palmer. The injury stuation is getting a bit silly now, the only good thing is that there's an international break coming up and it sounds like Lee and hutch are on the mend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Av heard of a grade 2 bellend Judging by the racism thread it seems we have some weapons grade ones following us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob 13 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 We need to get busy in the loan market sharpish, possible cover at c/b, obviously somebody who knows where the net is and a attacking midfielder otherwise all the hard work upto now will turn to rat cac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gaffer Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 We have cover at CB in the form of Buxton, Zayatte, Dielna. Its middle of park where were hideously short. Hutchinson and Lee are big misses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Often because the only reason players of their standard join us rather than better teams is that they are too injury prone for others to sign them. Lee hardly ever missed a game for Oldham, and the same is true of Lees too. Hutchinson's a different matter though. Mind, I don't think it's his knees keeping him out at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Hutchinson's problem is his back, nothing to do with his knees. It seems and obviously it was a lot worse than the club thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 1. twinge (just stretching a few muscle fibres) 2. pull (enough pulled to restrict movement) 3. tear, two weeks out min. 4. complete tear - months out 5. snap - requires surgery just using what knowledge I have, none of which is medical Can you convert these to the JJ scale of hamstring injuries? I.e. 1 Johnson-should be miraculously fit for a 2 match period coming up to contract renewal, 5 Johnson-out for remainder of recently signed 2 year contract extension and requires recuperation on a Jamaican beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 dunno what a grade 2 means. worse than a grade 1? How many grades are there? Three. It's fairly serious. Probably be 2/3 weeks if it is actually a grade two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Grade 2 hamstring is 4-6 weeks out generally There are officially three grades with grade 3 being a rupture but there are divisions within the grades. A tear that is slightly more severe than a grade one but a mild grade two is obviously preferable to a severe grade two that's not a rupture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Grade 2 hamstring is 4-6 weeks out generally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Grade 2 hamstring is 4-6 weeks out generally There are officially three grades with grade 3 being a rupture but there are divisions within the grades. A tear that is slightly more severe than a grade one but a mild grade two is obviously preferable to a severe grade two that's not a rupture I guess you're judgement on stuff like this is much better than most people on here but i just have a few questions? Gray is hoping it will be days, is that even possible? He does say Lees is a quick healer. He say's Lees has had a scan so wouldn't they already know they full extent/length of time out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Scans can be misleading and often don't show the true picture. In terms of ruptures they are pretty accurate but for things like amount of myofibril disruption after a muscle/ligament tear they are not too reliable. Also we scan players too readily IMO - we have the results and report from scans but we also have the clinical picture of how the player is on physical assessment. The two things can often be contradictory No way will a genuine grade 2 muscle tear be days rather than weeks. I think 4 weeks is optimistic personally - but not out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 The problem with hamstrings is you have to be careful. You can't rush back, you can't do lots of rehab, it's literally just a case of letting the body repair itself, then doing gentle exercise. Even when the hamstring is feeling ok, it's usually not. Disappointing really. But better for him to get back to full fitness rather than rush him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1banana2banana Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Zayatte should be back for tuesday?3 game ban straight red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 The problem with hamstrings is you have to be careful. You can't rush back, you can't do lots of rehab, it's literally just a case of letting the body repair itself, then doing gentle exercise. Even when the hamstring is feeling ok, it's usually not. Disappointing really. But better for him to get back to full fitness rather than rush him. You can (and should) do lots of rehab - but its also the type of rehab that is vital It's why hamstring injuries used to recur so often ( Giggs, Owen) - because the rehab was all in a non functional way The focus used to be on making the hamstring stronger but the emphasis was on a component of strength that wasn't applicable to how the hamstring actually worked. So the weakness got proportionally weaker as the strength if the other component of the muscle got stronger. This made the hamstring more vulnerable - hence high recurrent rates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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