Beholder Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Losing the will to win and not competing or pressuring if it doesn't go right after the first 15 you mean.... Sorry but don't but I won't have it. That's football. When one team gets on top, the other team looks poorer in comparison. If it were the other way round we would have probably won. I don't know what you are expecting? We are not in L1 anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aj_owl Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 we were playing a team with a budget that dwarfs our own. ex prem. Quality players. That's what i'm driving at. A team who had previously won 1 in 8........managerless. Who completely outclassed us. If that doesnt worry you then i applaud your fortitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 A team who had previously won 1 in 8........managerless. Who completely outclassed us. If that doesnt worry you then i applaud your fortitude. it doesn't. They were due a win. They are a top 6 team. One of the best i have seen this season- if not the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 quality players or not beholder we should at least have given them a game, a lot of accounts on here say that we stood off to much if so that is the wrong way to go about it , you have to be in their faces be first to every ball if you can ,and stop them playing , it works if you do it right , ok you won't win every ball but the pressure counts and forces mistakes in the oposition ,it's called rising to the game , can we not do this ,if not why ,thats what the manager should be asking , we should be forcing the issue especially at home , should we not , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 quality players or not beholder we should at least have given them a game, a lot of accounts on here say that we stood off to much if so that is the wrong way to go about it , you have to be in their faces be first to every ball if you can ,and stop them playing , it works if you do it right , ok you won't win every ball but the pressure counts and forces mistakes in the oposition ,it's called rising to the game , can we not do this ,if not why ,thats what the manager should be asking , we should be forcing the issue especially at home , should we not , Yes but they were good. When the game got into it's rhythm after the initial spells (that we dominated) it was plain to see. I am not concerned that we were beaten by a superior team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 I am not expecting 2 players to boss our 3 man midfield for 70 minutes at home against a side with a poor away record, who had conceded 4 72 hours ago, who have no manager and had won 1 in 8. Doesn't matter what league you are in - you compete to get back on top. - thats football as I know it. No point in turning up otherwise. righto. You have got very high expectations. Well, prepare for alot more disappointment then. It's not gonna be an easy season. But that is not a reason to go into meltdown and demand sackings. We need to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 We are in a relegation battle and it's high time we stop deluding ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 they may be good mate and i respect your point but they can be stopped if you set up your stall to do so ,if you let them play they will hammer you , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 everyone was slating blackpool pre match, now their a fantastic team because they beat us? we are just a bottom 6 championship team, the sooner fans realise the less they will get hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 In that case, enjoy your lack of concern at where the next points are coming from over the next three games.... I am just being realistic. Like others have said, it is becoming clear we are a bottom half side. On that basis, picking up wins against the top teams is wishful thinking.. Just remember last time we were in this league. It is a very hard league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Jones stuck with a winning team and formation. it didn't work. I expect that next game it will change. Regarding concern, if we had just got beat and outplayed by bristol city then I would be. But it was a very good team, i don't care what their recent record is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Right you are then. Goodnight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robswfc Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 That says more about the playing staff than anything else tbf. I find it hard to accept 37% of possession at home. Yes, Blackpool are a better team but they are no world beaters, before tonight they had won 1 in 8 and were 3 points ahead of us. We were completely outclassed never at the races and they never got out of 1st gear. You went then? Cos you sound like you've got your info from the bbc website. No way we only had 33% possession. Your post- what a load of reactionary bullshit. Admittedly they bossed much of the first half, but we were the better team in the second. We could easily have got a draw. Blackpool may have been on a bad run, but they played very well tonight. We defended well, passed the ball around well, got into some great positions, should have been given another blatant penalty, and were let down by our crossing and finishing. But in no way were we "completely outclassed" or "never at the races" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 We were nowhere near as bad as the crowd / owlstalk reaction was. The kop was almost cringeworthy tonight! Booing a 2-0 defeat to one of the best teams in the league? A team still receiving parachute payments? Really? If anything tonight just shows the difference in class across the whole team. We have 1 or 2 individuals that stand out but otherwise we need to realise our limitations and stop expecting Daniel Jones and Buxton to bomb forward without concequences. I agree, we do have some average players for this level and some good ones. It's not nice when we lose but we could've been level with them had we stuck a chance away and then the game changes. As much as I'd like us to pull clear of relegation I think it's going to probably going to haunt us for a good while yet and we all need to roll our sleeves up. Fans can help by dropping the over reactions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aj_owl Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Jones stuck with a winning team and formation. it didn't work. I expect that next game it will change. Regarding concern, if we had just got beat and outplayed by bristol city then I would be. But it was a very good team, i don't care what their recent record is. We should just accept we are a bottom 6 team(which atm we are) and not expect to even compete with anyone above us in the league? You keep suggesting Blackpool were brilliant, i'd argue that they didnt look that great and we made them look a damn sight better by not even competing. We did the exact same against Hull. We gave them the ball back through bad distribution all night. We set up poor tactics and some players didnt compete at all. I dont expect miracles and didnt expect to beat Blackpool but i expect us to have a go, put in a performance and seeing more of the ball. They weren't brilliant, they were better but we allowed them to win at a canter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leeswfc3 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 burnley leeds blackburn ipswich how many did we win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Leeswfc3 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 so if we play ok...then that's alright then?? for me it's more about the results....moving up the table etc..am i on my own here? a lot of people seem to think if we don't lose...it's like a win ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) The consensus on Owlstalk (obviously I appreciate that the details will vary from person to person) in recent weeks was firstly that Jones needed to be dismissed, then that two victories had really kick-started us and we could look forward a little more optimistically and now one defeat has us demanding his sacking again. And I'm expected to treat this reactionary petulance seriously? As I said at the time, all this 'win the next two games to save your job' nonsense was just that. Nonsense. Ninety minutes of football later we're right back where we were a fortnight ago. Some people want their sacrificial lamb and won't rest until they have it. Now if there was a Ron Atkinson like Messiah waiting in the wings to rescue us from Jones' supposed incompetence I'd be much more supportive of a potential change. But I see no such figure. Some of the names touted as prospective replacements chill the blood quite frankly. It may have come as something of a surprise, but the truth is that we are not all that good at the moment. But it's a long season and there are plenty of other mediocre teams struggling down there with us. We have to face the reality of our position and stop behaving like drama queens, depending on fantasies of vastly improved form that will miraculously, yet somehow inevitably arrive by appointing Owen Coyle, Paul Ince or Karl Robinson. Edited November 7, 2012 by DJMortimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lawrie Maddens Hump Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 We are not playing well at the minute. I'm usually 100% behind Jones, but even I'm beginning to wonder. We need more going forward in my opinion. Technically Blackpool looked head and shoulders above us when in possession (Barkley aside). As for the drama queens, most of them are trolls, whilst those that are Wednesday are made up of Megson-ites (who are just waiting for Jones to fail) as well as pessimists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) For long periods I thought we played better last night than we did against Peterboro on Saturday. Just that we came up against far better opposition. Edited November 7, 2012 by bradowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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